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[KevinB]

Offensive War of Choice is an interesting choice of words.

Your most recent reply is at least a little different from the previous. As to me at least, the one I quoted above seemed to suggest that you didn’t consider Israel a democracy liberal democracy.

Yes they have a number of problematic regional issues — but that doesn’t makes them not a democratic society.

 

[Altair]

Offensive War of Choice is an interesting choice of words.

Your most recent reply is at least a little different from the previous. As to me at least, the one I quoted above seemed to suggest that you didn’t consider Israel a democracy liberal democracy.

Yes they have a number of problematic regional issues — but that doesn’t makes them not a democratic society.

Israel is a country that views itself as under seige, and as such offensive expeditions will be seen as a protecting their nation, especially as they have no strategic depth. Toss in generational trauma of being the target of a genocide and being the only nation in the planet majority Jewish, and you have the unique set of circumstances that allow if not demand that they be bellicose.

Can this be applied to Germany, or France, or Japan, or Australia, or Italy or Canada, or the UK, or and or and or and or, the list goes on, the answer is no.

So dictatorships know this. Public sentiment in democracies sour quickly in offensive wars of choice.So dictatorships can do whatever they damn well please, kill as many innocent civilians as they please, fund terror proxies all they want, no western population will support a prolonged offensive conflict.

This war is/was a perfect example.

 

[Brad Sallows]

The question isn't particularly useful. "What conditions can I pile on to frame a rhetorical question that will essentially define it to have only one answer" is how the exercise strikes me. "Wars viewed as worth it", no matter what kind of government initiated them, was a small set to begin with.

Whoop-de-do.

 

[Altair]

The question isn't particularly useful. "What conditions can I pile on to frame a rhetorical question that will essentially define it to have only one answer" is how the exercise strikes me. "Wars viewed as worth it", no matter what kind of government initiated them, was a small set to begin with.

Whoop-de-do.

Considering how the western democracies fought like demons during WW2 start to finish, same for WW1, I think its fair to point out the discrepancy.