Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[suffolkowner]

splitting the unemployment data at 19ish makes sense. They are two separate cohorts IMO
15-19
20-24
until this discussion i never would have thought differently

 

[Brad Sallows]

How about this. When you find a scrape of data pointing towards your hypothesis that young people are somehow not working as hard, or are as you put it," seeking to find the job they want to do for the amount of money they need for the lifestyle they want to live", feel free to share it with the class.

I'm just spitballing. If financial nihilists are going to behave like incels, that's on them, irrespective of causes/excuses.

 

[Altair]

I'm just spitballing. If financial nihilists are going to behave like incels, that's on them, irrespective of causes/excuses.

If someone is told they have a terminal disease, does that person save their money for a future they will never see? No.

Young people are being told they will never have the future their parents had no matter how hard they work, if they can even get it.

Naturally they will behave the same way. They have been told, and are experiencing, that they are being handed a terminal financial future.

 

[YZT580]

Your solution to youth unemployment being work two jobs or make your own work is akin to let them eat cake.

Sorry if that's glass half empty, but your "solution" isn't reasonable by any metric.

Don't believe me, go on reddit, suggest that on any subreddit with young people and prepare to be laughed out the room.

so the gossip on Reddit is more valid than real life? You can't base your life on what other people say or do. That is why all those immigrants are running more and more businesses and Canadians are working for them when they can get a job since first dibs go to family. Those immigrants work as many jobs as required to achieve their goals. And no I didn't say that was the solution to youth unemployment. In fact I listed all the handicaps that WASP kids have to circumvent to even get a job including the ones that they or their family have erected or did you do your normal thing and just focus on one line? Your remarks simply raised barriers that might or might not exist, barriers that a little planning can overcome

Agree with him, he wants to be right.

He's never agreed with anyone.
. And I wasn't the one who introduced having two jobs I simply asked what was the problem with working two jobs (if you can find them)

 

[Brad Sallows]

If someone is told they have a terminal disease, does that person save their money for a future they will never see? No.

Young people are being told they will never have the future their parents had no matter how hard they work, if they can even get it.

Naturally they will behave the same way. They have been told, and are experiencing, that they are being handed a terminal financial future.

Sure. The fact it means they spend more on themselves right now has nothing to do with it.

Despair is a sin.

 

[Altair]

Sure. The fact it means they spend more on themselves right now has nothing to do with it.

Sympthom, not a cause.

Despair is a sin.

Despair is reality.

 

[Altair]

so the gossip on Reddit is more valid than real life? You can't base your life on what other people say or do.

I feel like you may be slightly out of touch with the realities young people are going through. I see it from my generation, I see it from extended family coming up behind me by up to ten years, and I read about it on places like reddit from young people today talking about how they have been handed a bill of goods.

That is why all those immigrants are running more and more businesses and Canadians are working for them when they can get a job since first dibs go to family. Those immigrants work as many jobs as required to achieve their goals.

Those darn immigrants, eh?

And no I didn't say that was the solution to youth unemployment. In fact I listed all the handicaps that WASP kids have to circumvent to even get a job including the ones that they or their family have erected or did you do your normal thing and just focus on one line?

I literally said I agreed with most of your post minus the one line.

I agree with most of your post. Most. But then there is that one nugget...


I find it hard to tell a young person who cannot find one job that the solution is to find two jobs.

Look, me agreeing! Wowzers.

Your remarks simply raised barriers that might or might not exist, barriers that a little planning can overcome

Again, the systemic solution isn't for every kid to become a entrepeneur. Unless the goal is for every 18 year old to open a OF and call it being a entrepeneur.

. And I wasn't the one who introduced having two jobs I simply asked what was the problem with working two jobs (if you can find them)

There is nothing wrong with working two jobs, I see it quite often. Sister in law, went to school for childhood education, works for the school board and then works with children with developmental disabilities after her 9-5. Still nowhere close to being able to afford a house. Or have kids. She's 36.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Sympthom, not a cause.

Self-serving indulgences tend to be causes. What appears to go before tend to be excuses.

Despair is reality.

People are missing the point, then. Even without divine causes, humanity is not meant to thrive without substantial effort.

Canadians are getting what they voted for, including generations born since 1980.

 

[Altair]

Self-serving indulgences tend to be causes. What appears to go before tend to be excuses.

Humans, over generations, tend to be largely the same. Every older generation calls the generations that come after them lazy, who couldn't walk uphill both ways to school like they did, who listen to devil music teaching loose values (hi Elvis)

But on a whole, young people today are no different than the ones who came before. With that in mind, one has to wonder why that generation is not performing like every generation previously.

We are left with two choices. One, you are right, and they brought it upon themselves with some spectacular divergance never before seen in terms of being able to create wealth and and match if not surpass their parents. Or the system is setting them up to fail, their by policy, technology, circumstance, or a combination of all three.

People are missing the point, then. Even without divine causes, humanity is not meant to thrive without substantial effort.

Imagine going through that substantial effort, and still ending up further behind. How long before you give up on that path?

Canadians are getting what they voted for, including generations born since 1980.

Wait, I thought it was the fault of the young people? Pick a lane.