- Reaction score
- 5,601
- Points
- 1,160
So it appears that in BC we have had between 30 and 50 new starts in the past 2 days.

Might like this one too...MSM take on U.S. legislator "WTF's with your smoke, Canada?!?!?" positions.
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U.S. lawmakers press Canada on wildfires as Carney defends environmental record
Some U.S. lawmakers on Thursday threatened to sanction Canada - or even possibly annex it entirely - as they raged about wildfire smoke blanketing many parts of Canada and swaths of the United States.vancouver.citynews.ca
Also, for the record, I suspect many already have decent sites bookmarked, but if you like map-y stuff on this, here's some decent sites.
Ontario Map Viewer
www.lioapplications.lrc.gov.on.ca
ArcGIS Web Application
www.arcgis.com
Wildfire Smoke Fine Particulate Matter PM2.5 - 72h Hourly Maps at Ground Level - 12 UTC - Environment Canada
Weather Maps, Maps, Modelling, Numerical Weather Forecastingweather.gc.ca
That's not bad for the amount of lightning we've had here in Alberta. Assuming the same frontal passages came through.So it appears that in BC we have had between 30 and 50 new starts in the past 2 days.
www.thebeaverton.com
There's no problems with smuggled guns at the border, says Nathalie. And, the Big Cheeto is sure all the drugs are flowing southbound.I'd make them a deal. We will look into our smoke rights after they solve guns and drugs crossing the border northbound.
It’s genuinely impressive that at this point he can still think of fresh things to say that are so stupid they’re surprising. Like seriously dude, just look at a map.![]()
Trump blasts Canada over wildfire smoke, threatens to increase tariffs
U.S. President Donald Trump says the cost of pollution from wildfire smoke drifting south of the border 'must' be added to the tariffs imposed on Canadian goods.www.ctvnews.ca
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Trump blasts Canada over wildfire smoke, threatens to increase tariffs
U.S. President Donald Trump says the cost of pollution from wildfire smoke drifting south of the border 'must' be added to the tariffs imposed on Canadian goods.www.ctvnews.ca

Way to jinx itI wondering when TRump will start charging a Tariff on those affected states or insist that USA must increase its manufacturing of smoke and export more of it.
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Trump blasts Canada over wildfire smoke, threatens to increase tariffs
U.S. President Donald Trump says the cost of pollution from wildfire smoke drifting south of the border 'must' be added to the tariffs imposed on Canadian goods.www.ctvnews.ca
Correct…That's not bad for the amount of lightning we've had here in Alberta. Assuming the same frontal passages came through.
It's when you're hitting those numbers for a district or region things get more active. I'd just call that busy Initial Attack day...
But then you get a fire inside/beside a community and things get very real very fast.
At least he said Prime Minister this time.
this is probably the only time we’ll see CBC gloating, tut-tutting, chirping and clapping about how great wildfire smoke is.
Similar (although less physical exertion). I went for a m/c ride today up to Temagami. I could really see or smell anything - unless a few days ago - but when I got back I had to irrigate my nose and eyes.
The problem with converted or re-purposed aircraft (or, alternatively, the advantage of the CL-x15 and Air Tractor) in the Ontario context and likely some other provinces, is they require airfields; whereas northern Ontario has lots and lots of lakes to scoop water directly from.It also depends on the airframes...
Large fixed wing units like the L-188 are excellent especially in mountains where they're able to handle the wind/lift changes better than smaller units....but dropping water is hell on planes especially the wing spars and under go high strain on the airframes. Smaller units like the Air Tractors 802's are great (in numbers to match equal load of a large plane) and can be very precise...but they are small light planes in a area with all kinds of wind/heat/lift implications. The DeHavaliand series of scooper water bombers I'd place in the middle.
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Note that the 802s and the CL-215/415/future 515 series tend to be built on new...many are just wearing out or have had complete rebuilds.
Planes like the Dash 8 Q400 tend to be civilian used planes converted...same with the RJ-185/Bae146's. Partially because in some cases the airframe is not in production anymore but there are ample #'s built for sourcing parts etc.
Personally...if we want a federal fleet outside of what the CIFFC tender process created this year....and CIFFC has already tapped out that fleet...then I'd be looking at one of three options:
- Bombardier Dash8- Q400 MR. This is a sub-series but allows for both passenger use or tanker use via modular tank systems. Saskatchewan has 2 of them and I view them as both a civil response/water bomber. this is my first choice due to the number of civilian airframes out there and pilots available.
- C-130 with modular MAFF tank. This would be similar to the US Air National Guard squadrons who fly these missions. Aligns better with the RCAF but it's a US airframe which is politically tougher
- CL-515 but only if they were also given additional taskings like SAR on the Great Lakes/coastline. You need a mission when seasons are slow and if it's going to be a federal fleet then aligning multiple priorities is key. Almost every province/territory uses the older versions of these planes so they are fairly inter-operable with provincial fleets.