Continental Defence Corvette

[NavyShooter]

I think that one is targeting the US's failed Constellation project.

 

[Lumber]

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder what "North American Naval Project" this is aimed at? If it's CDC, it would appear this project has "grown" substantially.

Note the radar in the picture looks like SPY-7... Also note the reference to CMS 330.

Rheinmetall Unveils GMF140 Next-Gen 6,000-Tonne Frigate for North America - Naval News

Rheinmetall unveils the GMF140, a next-gen 6,000-tonne frigate featuring AEGIS, 64 VLS cells, and advanced ASW, targeting North American naval projects.

www.navalnews.com

"Lockheed Martin CMS330 Combat Management System which provides decisive and proven operational performance through an open, inter-operable and highly scale-able fleet wide combat management ecosystem that can support the integration of European sensor and weapon systems."

Lockheed Martin Canada's CMS 330.

Other than that, great shout-out for CMS 330.

 

[calculus]

I think that one is targeting the US's failed Constellation project.

That's being replaced by a new light frigate class known as FF(X), which will be based on the US Coast Guard’s HII Ingalls Shipbuilding Legend-class National Security Cutter design. So, I still think this is being aimed at CDC, unless there is another NA frigate program (Mexico perhaps?).

 

[oldcpu]

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder what "North American Naval Project" this is aimed at? If it's CDC, it would appear this project has "grown" substantially.

Note the radar in the picture looks like SPY-7... Also note the reference to CMS 330.

Rheinmetall Unveils GMF140 Next-Gen 6,000-Tonne Frigate for North America - Naval News

Rheinmetall unveils the GMF140, a next-gen 6,000-tonne frigate featuring AEGIS, 64 VLS cells, and advanced ASW, targeting North American naval projects.

www.navalnews.com

Based on that Naval News article, it claims the GMF140 is designed to integrate US sourced primary radar options, with AEGIS Combat System; and 64 Strike-Length Vertical Launch System (VLS) cells, and CMS330 Combat Management System targeting North American naval projects?

Targeting North American naval projects ???

The USN has already selected a modified Legend-class National Security Cutter (NSC) design for their new FF(X) frigates (and CMS-330 is not likely of interest to USN).

And at 6,000 tons and 140 meters in length the GMF140 is very oversized for a Canadian Continental Defence Corvette.

Its a bit puzzling as to what Rheinmetall have in mind. Could they be:

• speculating USN may switch from its new FF(X) frigate design, or
• speculating Canada will either upscale its Canadian Continental Defence Corvette, or
• speculating Canada will replace later batches of its Type-26 River Class design?

I can't help but think either the NavalNews article has mistated Rheinmetall's intent, or Rheinmetall is rolling the dice on a long shot.

 

[calculus]

Hmm. Interesting. I wonder what "North American Naval Project" this is aimed at? If it's CDC, it would appear this project has "grown" substantially.

Note the radar in the picture looks like SPY-7... Also note the reference to CMS 330.

Rheinmetall Unveils GMF140 Next-Gen 6,000-Tonne Frigate for North America - Naval News

Rheinmetall unveils the GMF140, a next-gen 6,000-tonne frigate featuring AEGIS, 64 VLS cells, and advanced ASW, targeting North American naval projects.

www.navalnews.com

More on this. Canada is specifically mentioned.

Rheinmetall unveils new GMF 140 guided missile frigate for North American naval programs

Rheinmetall has unveiled the GMF 140 guided missile frigate, a 6,000-tonne surface combatant featuring 64 Strike-Length VLS cells and Aegis integration. Designed for a core crew of 90, the platform combines air defense, anti-submarine warfare, and ballistic missile defense for NATO procurement.

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[calculus]

That's being replaced by a new light frigate class known as FF(X), which will be based on the US Coast Guard’s HII Ingalls Shipbuilding Legend-class National Security Cutter design. So, I still think this is being aimed at CDC, unless there is another NA frigate program (Mexico perhaps?).

Quick Google search shows no sign of a Mexican naval frigate program, and the US is developing the FF(X), so I think this is aimed at CDC. Like I mentioned in my original post, this suggests the Germans are under the impression the 105m restriction may have been lifted.

 

[calculus]

More on this. Canada is specifically mentioned.

Rheinmetall unveils new GMF 140 guided missile frigate for North American naval programs

Rheinmetall has unveiled the GMF 140 guided missile frigate, a 6,000-tonne surface combatant featuring 64 Strike-Length VLS cells and Aegis integration. Designed for a core crew of 90, the platform combines air defense, anti-submarine warfare, and ballistic missile defense for NATO procurement.

www.armyrecognition.com

More again. Reference to "a procurement project in North America."

Rheinmetall reveals new guided missile frigate

www.navaltoday.com

 

[dapaterson]

Quick Google search shows no sign of a Mexican naval frigate program, and the US is developing the FF(X), so I think this is aimed at CDC. Like I mentioned in my original post, this suggests the Germans are under the impression the 105m restriction may have been lifted.

An opportunity for CAN / MEX military cooperation?

 

[calculus]

From the horse's mouth. Interesting details, including what appears to be SPY7, a Mk 45 gun, and RAM launchers, all of which will be employed by the RCN with the RCDs.

GMF 140

The GMF 140 is a next-generation guided missile frigate for NATO navies with air and missile defence, anti-submarine warfare and long-range strike capabilities.

www.rheinmetall.com

 

[oldcpu]

From the horse's mouth. Interesting details, including what appears to be SPY7, a Mk 45 gun, and RAM launchers, all of which will be employed by the RCN with the RCDs.

GMF 140

The GMF 140 is a next-generation guided missile frigate for NATO navies with air and missile defence, anti-submarine warfare and long-range strike capabilities.

www.rheinmetall.com

That 'soften's this a lot IMHO. The Rheinmetall marketting page states:

Developed to meet the evolving operational requirements of NATO and allied navies, the GMF 140 establishes a new benchmark for survivability, lethality and mission flexibility in the global frigate market.
....
Its design is particularly well suited to nations modernising their fleets in response to increasingly complex security challenges across Europe, the North Atlantic and the Indo-Pacific.

... so its not specifically aimed at North America. Makes me speculate that some naval/military news editors were having some fun with a spin view of their own.

 

[oldcpu]

That 'soften's this a lot IMHO. The Rheinmetall marketting page states:
....
... so its not specifically aimed at North America. Makes me speculate that some naval/military news editors were having some fun with a spin view of their own.

No sooner did i type that, when I spotted yet another Rheinmetall page:

GMF 140 Frigate for Modern Naval Operations

Rheinmetall GMF 140 is a next-generation frigate with air defence, missile defence and anti-submarine warfare for NATO navies.

www.rheinmetall.com

which states:

With the GMF 140, Rheinmetall is targeting international markets and intends to offer it initially as part of a procurement project in North America. ....

....

Rheinmetall intends to offer the GMF 140 for a campaign in North America, potentially followed by other allied Navies seeking a highly interoperable, future-ready naval combatant capable of operating seamlessly alongside the world’s leading naval forces.

Which is consistent with what Naval News and Army Recognition reported.

So - it reads to me like a big roll of the dice by Rheinmetall . I would wager neither Canada, USA, nor Mexico would pickup on this.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

That's overkill for the CDC. This is up there with the RCD as a destroyer for NATO high end ops.

 

[Kirkhill]

No sooner did i type that, when I spotted yet another Rheinmetall page:

GMF 140 Frigate for Modern Naval Operations

Rheinmetall GMF 140 is a next-generation frigate with air defence, missile defence and anti-submarine warfare for NATO navies.

www.rheinmetall.com

which states:


....


Which is consistent with what Naval News and Army Recognition reported.

So - it reads to me like a big roll of the dice by Rheinmetall . I would wager neither Canada, USA, nor Mexico would pickup on this.

If Canada were in the market for a 140m frigate wouldn't it be looking at the Type 31 Arrowhead 140?

 

[Lumber]

So... we're going with 3 River-Class Destroyers and 12 GMF 140 up-gunned frigates?