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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2014, 09:30:19 »
 niner-dom, a snr nco clerk  got a CC RSS position in her primary language (her last after 22+regs) posting to NCSM JOLLIET (she's an Acadienne from the north shore of NB). Being a snr nco medic, I Couldn't get a position myself with the regs there, so after 24+ years I released out of gag town & followed niner dom. Got to Sept-Iles, applied as  a class A medic for the unit (did some class B instructing BOTC for the naval regs & res at Work Point in Esquimalt). Spent 4 years there & enjoyed my experience. Learned a little, but not much french (well drill being the top priority LOL!) , but the folks from the CO to the newly enrolled OS were awesome - it's been 4 years since we both retired out of the regs & res, and still in touch with a lot of the troops via fb; from the (retired|)CO on down. Besides the taxes there, I had a pretty good time as an 'square head' newfie anglo LOL! (I hate the term being referred as 'english' - but that's just me ;)  )

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2014, 09:33:15 »
niner-dom, a snr nco clerk  got a CC RSS position in her primary language (her last after 22+regs) posting to NCSM JOLLIET (she's an Acadienne from the north shore of NB). ....................................... I had a pretty good time as an 'square head' newfie anglo LOL! (I hate the term being referred as 'english' - but that's just me ;)  )

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2014, 11:38:17 »
From what I've seen, Anglos have three possible reactions to being posted to Valcartier:

1.  Those who spend their entire posting saying "Woe is me, why won't people speak English?";

2.  Those who meet a French Canadian girl, teach each other the other language, and end up with a house full of bilingual children; and

3.  Those who get taken to L'Entre Nous and decide that it's really not so bad in Valcartier after all.
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2014, 11:49:38 »
From what I've seen, Anglos have three possible reactions to being posted to Valcartier:

1.  Those who spend their entire posting saying "Woe is me, why won't people speak English?";

2.  Those who meet a French Canadian girl, teach each other the other language, and end up with a house full of bilingual children; and

3.  Those who get taken to L'Entre Nous and decide that it's really not so bad in Valcartier after all.

Did number 3 years and years before I took door number 2..........and I mock mercilessly those who pick #1. :nod:
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2014, 12:02:08 »
Did number 3 years and years before I took door number 2..........and I mock mercilessly those who pick #1. :nod:

There's always the option of doing #3 and while there doing #2... though the "How did you meet" stories for the kids need to be sanitised a bit.  "Well, it was magic under the blacklight as I saw her..."
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2014, 12:54:05 »
except L'entre-nous doesn't exist anymore.

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2014, 14:31:38 »
From what I've seen, Anglos have three possible reactions to being posted to Valcartier:

1.  Those who spend their entire posting saying "Woe is me, why won't people speak English?";

2.  Those who meet a French Canadian girl, teach each other the other language, and end up with a house full of bilingual children; and

3.  Those who get taken to L'Entre Nous and decide that it's really not so bad in Valcartier after all.

4.  Those who say "Cool, I'll learn French by immersion because the CF won't give me a course."

FTFY.   ;)   :nod:
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2014, 18:36:27 »
except L'entre-nous doesn't exist anymore.
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2014, 19:32:16 »
except L'entre-nous doesn't exist anymore.

Yes, it was shut down years ago; there are condos now in that location.
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2014, 19:46:19 »
From what I've seen, Anglos have three possible reactions to being posted to Valcartier:

1.  Those who spend their entire posting saying "Woe is me, why won't people speak English?";

2.  Those who meet a French Canadian girl, teach each other the other language, and end up with a house full of bilingual children; and

3.  Those who get taken to L'Entre Nous and decide that it's really not so bad in Valcartier after all.

Serious question:  Would this apply to Bagotville as well?  (Obviously not the L'Entre-Nous...but I'm sure there are similar establishments.)
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2014, 20:23:41 »
Based on my four year posting to CFB Bagotville , bang on the money for items 1, 2, and 3.
And that is a serious answer.
And Bagotville, or the new amalgamated city of Saguenay, also has a abundance of item 3.  :)

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2014, 11:29:15 »
Come to think of it: from the title, you'd think the guy was serving in the British Army. It's like when US personnel tell me "Ah, you're French" !
I tell them I am no more French then they are English.

The original poster has a perception problem: we are all Canadians, and he was a Canadian Soldier serving on a Canadian Military base in Canada. It is no different from a person originating from Saguenay serving in Cold Lake, or someone from Gaspésie serving in Esquimalt.
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2014, 15:39:50 »
Based on my four year posting to CFB Bagotville , bang on the money for items 1, 2, and 3.
And that is a serious answer.
And Bagotville, or the new amalgamated city of Saguenay, also has a abundance of item 3.  :)


Then again I understand this outfit has openings:

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/airforce/

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2014, 16:12:58 »
*sniff* Pas plus «d'Entre-nous»...alors, nous continuons de profiter de la présence d'autres musées de la nature aux environs... :nod:

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2014, 18:02:55 »
Je suis un tete carre stupide....


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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2014, 18:16:48 »
Repeat after me:

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2014, 21:33:55 »

Then again I understand this outfit has openings:

http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/airforce/

 >:D :D

Since I get asked this by others on a seemingly-weekly basis, Lateral Transfers are pretty much over unless you have x-thousand hours fast jet and QFI/FCI time.   :P

Then again, on the "grass is greener on the other side" bit, I've had a few RAAF (and one ex-USN) folks ask about Lateral transfer to the RCAF. 
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2015, 07:17:04 »
I'm wondering If the CF provides some sort of quickstart guide for anglophones going to Valcartier/Bagottville. In September I'm going to Quebec City and studying French as a second language at ulaval. I've also got an attach posting at the local sigs unit. I've been advised by them, that I will have someone who will buddy up with me in order to ease the transistion.

So far I've looked into ALLIES (which I haven't had too much time to play with), and duolingo on my phone.

I'm just wondering if there any other resources that the CF provides to ease the transition. I speak minimal French at the moment and I am a class A reservist.

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2015, 22:16:40 »
I'm wondering If the CF provides some sort of quickstart guide for anglophones going to Valcartier/Bagottville. In September I'm going to Quebec City and studying French as a second language at ulaval. I've also got an attach posting at the local sigs unit. I've been advised by them, that I will have someone who will buddy up with me in order to ease the transistion.

So far I've looked into ALLIES (which I haven't had too much time to play with), and duolingo on my phone.

I'm just wondering if there any other resources that the CF provides to ease the transition. I speak minimal French at the moment and I am a class A reservist.

Cheers

Maybe look at what's available at Naval Reserve HQ or NCSM MONTCALM in Pointe-a-Carcy?  There are definitely Anglos posted to NAVRESHQ.
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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2015, 06:05:37 »
Interesting thread.

BLUF: Life is what you make of it.

As an unilingual Anglophone I was posted to the FMC HQ St Hubert (outside of Montreal) in the early 1990s from Petawawa.  I worried because of the perceived hatred by the French towards the English, but this was offset by the possibility of meeting gorgeous Quebecoise women.  When I got there I had the guys start teaching me simple phrases like ordering a pizza and so forth.  They eventually put me on a half day French course three times a week.  I was introduced to a beautiful Quebecoise, married her and started a life long intensive French course with her.  Over twenty years of marriage, three children, eight moves I can't be happier.

In general I've not a had a problem with the French vs the English thing.  You can think that a lot of negative kinds thrown at you but perhaps this your defensive screens being thrown up and you're being too sensitive.

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2015, 10:23:27 »
So that's where all the beautiful Quebecoises are disappearing to.

But I got my revenge: I'm a Quebecois who married an (English) Ontarian girl and brought her to the Dark Side.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! (Don't forget: Just for Laughs Festival - Montreal, July 8 to 28, 2015)

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Re: My time as an English soldier in Quebec City
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2015, 13:58:41 »
So that's where all the beautiful Quebecoises are disappearing to.

But I got my revenge: I'm a Quebecois who married an (English) Ontarian girl and brought her to the Dark Side.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! (Don't forget: Just for Laughs Festival - Montreal, July 8 to 28, 2015)

I spent New Years' in Old Montreal this year with my family. It was fantastic. And English only wasn't an issue.

If you have a lousy time there you can look in the mirror for the reason!
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