U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)

[Czech_pivo]

I have seen too much over announcing and under delivering to get excited about renewed defence spending.

100%
Time to walk the walk and no longer talk the talk.

 

[Remius]

You have it backwards. Elbows up and we'll take our little ball to the EU (reduce F35, joining Re-armEU) is the feelings approach.

No it’s pragmatic. The us is not afraid to tell us what we can or cannot do with their kit we buy. We need to get off that.

Do what we have to for our North America commitment and everything else can be looked at elsewhere. Preferably via our own industry but other more reliable and willing partners.

Get your house in order and reasonably fund defence (Re-armCAN) is the fact that needs to happen.

Rearm Europe will in fact re arm Can.

 

[Brad Sallows]

All my adult life Canada and the US have had trade friction.

The US is going through a phase which is unlikely to outlast Trump's tenure. Dissatisfied voters have pushed back by electing a president who pushes everything. There are simply too many people who will jettison tariffs at the first opportunity, including - probably - whoever is the next president, no matter what some of them are saying (or not saying) right now just to avoid being passed under the harrow. And I expect tariffs to end much sooner than that, because voters and established interests won't tolerate the fiscal pressure for that long.

Every minute people spend tearing their hair out over Trump's latest ridiculous pronouncement, including repetition of "51st state", is time spent not doing something useful. I saw some talking head on TV going on and on about it as if it actually mattered. Even asking someone to describe how they felt about their missing cat would be preferable. The greatest threat to our sovereignty is our own insecurity about our sovereignty. A confident people would have shrugged this bullshit off long ago. Whenever some politician starts ranting about "51st" state, someone ought to (figuratively) pull his nose or give him a hard slap on the cheek.

 

[KevinB]

No it’s pragmatic. The us is not afraid to tell us what we can or cannot do with their kit we buy. We need to get off that.

News flash, anyone who builds military gear (or at least cutting edge military gear is going to have a voice in telling you what you can, or cannot do with it.

ITAR was created here, so all the third world tin pot dictators in the UN could not keep blaming America for wars they started.

Do what we have to for our North America commitment and everything else can be looked at elsewhere. Preferably via our own industry but other more reliable and willing partners.

You’re going to waiting for hell to freeze over before you find a better partner. Canada has for years gone out of its way to buy shittier gear that isn’t made in the US. Then act smugly about it.

All of the European countries have their own laws and interests, and they don’t always intersect with Canada’s.

Rearm Europe will in fact re arm Can.

Yawn. More likely will enrich Europe and leave Canada playing second fiddle to a manufacturer even further away than the USA, and most likely a worse product…

 

[daftandbarmy]

You’re going to waiting for hell to freeze over before you find a better partner. Canada has for years gone out of its way to buy shittier gear that isn’t made in the US. Then act smugly about it.

I'll have you know that Canada doesn't have to buy shitty gear from anyone.

We can make it ourselves, thank you very much