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A week ago there were the usual suspects on here saying that we were being biased and not giving these guys the benefit of doubt.
To me, if you're going to plan a war with Iran and don't plan for a fight to control the Strait, and don't plan to protect major commercial centres (like Doha and Dubai) and critical assets in the region, it's rank incompetence, and I don't think they deserve the benefit of doubt. And if they did plan? Why were the assets they needed not in place?
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all but... Maybe I'll just "let them fight" lol
You know, like a treat.
Trump says US may strike Iran’s Kharg Island oil export hub ‘just for fun’
In comments to NBC News, US presidents also deflates hope of deal with Tehran, saying ‘terms aren’t good enough’www.theguardian.com
$150 oil. Totally a treat.
Oil last peaked in July 2008 at $147/bbl. Adjusted for inflation that is $222 today. So we have a ways to go before creating another generational crisis that will take a decade to recover from.
And before that, oil peaked at $11.65 in January 1974 during the '73 oil crisis. Adjusted for inflation that is $76.89. So we're well past that level.
And they are a maritime nation, at that...
A maritime nation that doesn't have a single operational attack submarine available & only a single missile sub out as there as their strategic deterrent, and no surface ships available to sail either.
A few years ago they were also a maritime nation that didn't have a maritime patrol aircraft. (Allied planes & crews provided their maritime patrol capability for a while, including Canada)
They made a point of sailing their shiny new carrier all over Asia recently, as part of a task group demonstrating that "Britain is back!"
And yet...here they are.
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I realize that Israel & the US didn't include the UK in their planning, but there's enough going on in tne world at the moment to bring the RN's readiness level higher than 2 available River class...
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Oldgateboatdriver
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Well, the First Sea Lord and the Secretary of State for Defense would be good places to start looking.
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Not yet enough to ensure rioting in the streets, but a nice development if entirely true ...
www.euronews.com
www.aljazeera.com
www.ynetnews.com
en.bd-pratidin.com
... but still seems like an uphill push for any dissidents according to IRN expat (backed by SAU?) media:
www.iranintl.com
Israel pounds regime forces with unexpected help from Iranians
In a latest development, Israel has been targeting Basij checkpoints in Tehran using citizen videos, aiming to weaken the Islamic Republic’s internal security and embolden anti-regime protesters.
www.euronews.com
Israel bombs Basij checkpoints in Tehran as US, Iran trade fire and jabs
Drone strikes have hit the paramilitary's heavily armed checkpoints this week, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said.
Report: Iranians send Israel locations of Basij fighters hiding across Tehran
Following overnight airstrikes that reportedly killed dozens, opposition media says members in Iranian capital moved their positions beneath bridges in an attempt to hide from further attacks
www.ynetnews.com
Israel says it struck Basij checkpoints in Tehran | | Bangladesh Pratidin
Israel said it struck Basij checkpoints in Tehran to weaken Iranian authorities’ control as residents reported security forces setting up roadblocks across the capital.
en.bd-pratidin.com
Mass arrests, intensifying crackdown sweep Iran amid attacks
Iranian authorities have launched a sweeping wave of arrests and tightened domestic repression as US and Israeli strikes continue to hit military facilities and security institutions tied to the Islamic Republic.
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If they lose HMS Richmond and HMS Kent this year as rumoured they will be down to 5 Type 23s
Iran:
futurism.com
Iran Says It's Ready to Destroy the Global Economy
A defiant Iran said it was ready for a long war that would "destroy" the global economy, as it continues to cut off oil supplies.
futurism.com
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Granted it's The Guardian, but it appears the locals are not in the mood to revolt with ordinance falling on them and the infrastructure they will need to rebuild.
www.theguardian.com
‘You are all worse than each other’: anti-regime Iranians turn on Trump
Mood among some in Iran shifts from hope of being rescued to dismay at destruction of infrastructure, culture and lives
www.theguardian.com
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Allah ackbar vs Allah ackbar. Police should stand back with their little bicycles and just let the protestors duke it out.
Allah will pick the winners.
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Granted it's The Guardian, but it appears the locals are not in the mood to revolt with ordinance falling on them and the infrastructure they will need to rebuild.
‘You are all worse than each other’: anti-regime Iranians turn on Trump
Mood among some in Iran shifts from hope of being rescued to dismay at destruction of infrastructure, culture and lives
These people seem to be naive. Did they really think a regime so embedded would be toppled so easily and that war would not impact them at all? Bizarre.
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It's a reflection of the base who elected and supports them.
The claims by the administration at this point have become pretty ridiculous.
They literally claimed the regime was destroyed two weeks ago (One member here even claimed "deleted") and yet here we are with Ayatollah Khomeini replaced by.... Ayatollah Khomeini.
The SECDEF declared "No quarter" most likely only because he thought it sounded badass, and probably doesn't actually know what it means, similar to when he described missiles that strike their targets with interception as "squirters" and nobody bothered to correct him on any of this and they literally let him say these things with no clarification.
Unfortunately, they're in deep now. I wish the US military luck, but taking down the IR / IRGC under the Trump Administration, I can't see this being some walk in the park. They're probably in way deeper than the American people realize.
And let be clear, the IR / IRGC has been a major force of destabilization, their support for terror groups, Russias war on Ukraine - for me, it's enough. Screw those guys. But launching a surprise attack during negotiations like this, with guys in charge who lie to the American people and don't under basic military terms, it's a bit concerning.
