Iran Super Thread- Merged

[Cloud Cover]

And I got dumped on earlier for calling out all the worst case scenarios on this and how the US didn’t plan for any of them.

 

[ytz]

And I got dumped on earlier for calling out all the worst case scenarios on this and how the US didn’t plan for any of them.

A week ago there were the usual suspects on here saying that we were being biased and not giving these guys the benefit of doubt.

To me, if you're going to plan a war with Iran and don't plan for a fight to control the Strait, and don't plan to protect major commercial centres (like Doha and Dubai) and critical assets in the region, it's rank incompetence, and I don't think they deserve the benefit of doubt. And if they did plan? Why were the assets they needed not in place?

 

[Lumber]

Meanwhile in Toronto

https://twitter.com/x/status/2032922709953220802

The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all but... Maybe I'll just "let them fight" lol

 

[ytz]

You know, like a treat.

Trump says US may strike Iran’s Kharg Island oil export hub ‘just for fun’

In comments to NBC News, US presidents also deflates hope of deal with Tehran, saying ‘terms aren’t good enough’

www.theguardian.com

$150 oil. Totally a treat.

Oil last peaked in July 2008 at $147/bbl. Adjusted for inflation that is $222 today. So we have a ways to go before creating another generational crisis that will take a decade to recover from.

And before that, oil peaked at $11.65 in January 1974 during the '73 oil crisis. Adjusted for inflation that is $76.89. So we're well past that level.

 

[CBH99]

Fully agree but to not have a single vessel ready to sail? Someone should be laying their head on a block for that one up to and including the minister.

And they are a maritime nation, at that...

A maritime nation that doesn't have a single operational attack submarine available & only a single missile sub out as there as their strategic deterrent, and no surface ships available to sail either.

A few years ago they were also a maritime nation that didn't have a maritime patrol aircraft. (Allied planes & crews provided their maritime patrol capability for a while, including Canada)



They made a point of sailing their shiny new carrier all over Asia recently, as part of a task group demonstrating that "Britain is back!"

And yet...here they are.

...

I realize that Israel & the US didn't include the UK in their planning, but there's enough going on in tne world at the moment to bring the RN's readiness level higher than 2 available River class...

 

[OldSolduer]

And they are a maritime nation, at that...

A maritime nation that doesn't have a single operational attack submarine available & only a single missile sub out as there as their strategic deterrent, and no surface ships available to sail either.

A few years ago they were also a maritime nation that didn't have a maritime patrol aircraft. (Allied planes & crews provided their maritime patrol capability for a while, including Canada)



They made a point of sailing their shiny new carrier all over Asia recently, as part of a task group demonstrating that "Britain is back!"

And yet...here they are.

...

I realize that Israel & the US didn't include the UK in their planning, but there's enough going on in tne world at the moment to bring the RN's readiness level higher than 2 available River class...

And who should be held responsible?

The Government of the UK along with a few Admirals.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Well, the First Sea Lord and the Secretary of State for Defense would be good places to start looking.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Staggering numbers. Missing mk48

That would be 3, for about $15M

 

[Czech_pivo]

A week ago there were the usual suspects on here saying that we were being biased and not giving these guys the benefit of doubt.

To me, if you're going to plan a war with Iran and don't plan for a fight to control the Strait, and don't plan to protect major commercial centres (like Doha and Dubai) and critical assets in the region, it's rank incompetence, and I don't think they deserve the benefit of doubt. And if they did plan? Why were the assets they needed not in place?

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