Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Altair]

Youd also have to expect MPs to put loyalty to the country above all, and I dont think very many of them do that.

Case in point, PP is still leading the CPC today.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Case in point, PP is still leading the CPC today.

He should have stepped down election night 2025, yes.

 

[Altair]

He should have stepped down election night 2025, yes.

He should have.

But barring that, he's so far down in the polls that his party should be forcing him out the door, but they seem content in their mediocrity.

 

[Halifax Tar]

He should have.

But barring that, he's so far down in the polls that his party should be forcing him out the door, but they seem content in their mediocrity.

The fact that we agree makes me feel so gross.

 

[Cloud Cover]

When did this occur? 2017 or 2024? For context I’m asking this.

2024

 

[Jarnhamar]

Another casualty of Poilievres leadership.

Liberal MP to resign following car crash that caused ‘significant health issues’

With several byelections already pending, Prime Minister Mark Carney is expected to call another after Liberal MP Shaun Chen has announced his resignation.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Haggis]

Another casualty of Poilievres leadership.

Liberal MP to resign following car crash that caused ‘significant health issues’

With several byelections already pending, Prime Minister Mark Carney is expected to call another after Liberal MP Shaun Chen has announced his resignation.

www.ctvnews.ca

How so? He was a Liberal MP.

 

[YZT580]

The fact that we agree makes me feel so gross.

and give the press 3 years to tear apart another pc leader. Better to wait another 2 years and let them expend their bile where it can't hurt.

 

[Good2Golf]

Agree. Poilievre might as well ride it out and see where things lead.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

and give the press 3 years to tear apart another pc leader. Better to wait another 2 years and let them expend their bile where it can't hurt.

With the exception of O'Toole, it has been well deserved. The Party keeps choosing unelectable ass-clowns as leader. I fervently want the CPC to do well....once they get serious about their leadership - on that day, they likely get my vote.

 

[Jarnhamar]

How so? He was a Liberal MP.

That's the joke

 

[Jarnhamar]

But barring that, he's so far down in the polls that his party should be forcing him out the door, but they seem content in their mediocrity.

Why though?

What are the benefits of replacing Poilievre 3 years before an election?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Why though?

What are the benefits of replacing Poilievre 3 years before an election?

Because Carney doesn't have to wait 3yrs. He could wait to Oct of 2027 IF CUSMA is resigned and the economy is doing well, as an example. A number of seats could become vacant and he drops below a majority by 2-3 seats and he rolls the dice.
Oct of 2027 puts Carney 2.5yrs into a mandate. He rolls the dice and looks for another 4yrs, which would put him 1yr less than the US election of 2032.

 

[dapaterson]

With the exception of O'Toole, it has been well deserved. The Party keeps choosing unelectable ass-clowns as leader. I fervently want the CPC to do well....once they get serious about their leadership - on that day, they likely get my vote.

Ignoring personalities, giving a leader two election cycles is a reasonable ask; there's a learning curve. Constant leadership churn makes strategic direction difficult. Scheer and O'Toole both being one and done suggests that the CPC learned nothing from the LPC implosions and churn that helped keep Harper as PM.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Because Carney doesn't have to wait 3yrs. He could wait to Oct of 2027 IF CUSMA is resigned and the economy is doing well, as an example. A number of seats could become vacant and he drops below a majority by 2-3 seats and he rolls the dice.
Oct of 2027 puts Carney 2.5yrs into a mandate. He rolls the dice and looks for another 4yrs, which would put him 1yr less than the US election of 2032.

Hurry up and pick a new leader and give the LPC up to 3 years time worth of distraction and character assassination against the off chance the LPC calls an election sooner? I would think Canadians wouldn't appreciate Carney playing election games - that same gamble didn't work out for Trudeau's dirtbag covid election attempt.

 

[Good2Golf]

Hurry up and pick a new leader and give the LPC up to 3 years time worth of distraction and character assassination against the off chance the LPC calls an election sooner? I would think Canadians wouldn't appreciate Carney playing election games - that same gamble didn't work out for Trudeau's dirtbag covid election attempt.

And Doug Ford’s mid-term majority refresh to a full-term mandate was a different political space (greater electoral homogeneity within Ontario than all across Canada).

 

[MilEME09]

Ignoring personalities, giving a leader two election cycles is a reasonable ask; there's a learning curve. Constant leadership churn makes strategic direction difficult. Scheer and O'Toole both being one and done suggests that the CPC learned nothing from the LPC implosions and churn that helped keep Harper as PM.

However on the flip side, lets say we get another federal election and Pierre loses again. Do you keep him on still or toss him? Internally he seems to be doing well but if they decided to keeo him after another election loss. I dont know if the party could recover

 

[Czech_pivo]

Hurry up and pick a new leader and give the LPC up to 3 years time worth of distraction and character assassination against the off chance the LPC calls an election sooner? I would think Canadians wouldn't appreciate Carney playing election games - that same gamble didn't work out for Trudeau's dirtbag covid election attempt.

Or with Harper during this time period. But it did work out for Ford. That's why I said 'roll the dice' because its a gamble.

 

[dapaterson]

However on the flip side, lets say we get another federal election and Pierre loses again. Do you keep him on still or toss him? Internally he seems to be doing well but if they decided to keeo him after another election loss. I dont know if the party could recover

Based on my model ( ) he'd have had his second chance, so it would be time to go looking for another.

Or he can go full Elizabeth May, and try to retain the leadership and repeatedly overthrow his replacements to try to hold on to an increasingly irrelevant party. Bonus points if that strategy involves Black Hills Nota Bene 2023.

 

[medicineman]

Or he can go full Elizabeth May, and try to retain the leadership and repeatedly overthrow his replacements to try to hold on to an increasingly irrelevant party. Bonus points if that strategy involves Black Hills Nota Bene 2023.

I think he's lose a lot of the current votes he had if he decided to make himself look like her - maybe get his teeth rearranged (I'm sure someone would be willing to punch him in the mouth a few times) but gender reassignment surgery would definitely upset the (alleged) Christian right wing and anti-LGBTQ2i folks that are taking over things...