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Interesting.
Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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PrairieFella
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This is probably the last kick at the can theyll ever get. Public opinion and demographics are not in their favour. Projects like ALTO which connect the region will make the chance even harder. As much as I think theyre a joke, its a wise call by the PQ to take away the "Trumpist" criticism from federalists. They have an uphill battle and are going to try to stack the deck as much as possible.
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I'm not so certain of that.
There has been a slow and steady rise of 'the regions' throughout the EU (and UK) over the last 30 odd years. I studied the beginnings of it when I did my graduate work in Belgium/The Netherlands in the early-mid 90's. The EU at that time was beginning to champion the pushing of centralised power from the various capitals out to the regions and localities. This the sort of stuff that eventually lead to Scotland getting its Parliament back, Wales getting more say in what happens in Wales and Cardiff getting more control of local issues, as 2 examples. Spain is a whole other example that the EU policies has only made more apparent.
Belgium was, and still remains, the ultimate devolution of power from the center out to the regions. This was pronounced to me as a CDN living in Flanders (Leuven, not Louvain) in 93/94 on how people viewed where they lived, how they thought of themselves and what was expected to be under the power of the region (Flanders), the language (Vlaams) vs what role Brussels/Bruxelles had in the day to day lives of the people. Don't get me talking about language in Belgium, the fact that whole cities/towns/villages/areas have completely different names depending on if you live in Flanders vs Wallonia is crazy, confusing and maddening - Leuven/Louvain, Namur/Namen, Liege/Luik, Gent/Ghent, Bruges/Bruggen, Anwers/Antwerp - as some quick top of them head examples.
Moving then on to Prague in mid 95,(roughly 18 months after the breakup of Czechoslovakia to the Czech Republic and Slovakia), for work gave me another unique perspective on how people viewed themselves, their capital, the regions (Bohemia vs Moravia vs Prague) and the former Slovak areas after a very civilized breakup was interesting.
All this to say that I don't see the question of 'separation' going away in Quebec. If various regions/areas in Europe continue to gain more control of their daily lives and taxes, it will only serve to strengthen the cause of those wanting more in Quebec.
In addition, I dare say that I could even see in the next 20yrs talk of similar 'separations' even being considered in the US.
There has been a slow and steady rise of 'the regions' throughout the EU (and UK) over the last 30 odd years. I studied the beginnings of it when I did my graduate work in Belgium/The Netherlands in the early-mid 90's. The EU at that time was beginning to champion the pushing of centralised power from the various capitals out to the regions and localities. This the sort of stuff that eventually lead to Scotland getting its Parliament back, Wales getting more say in what happens in Wales and Cardiff getting more control of local issues, as 2 examples. Spain is a whole other example that the EU policies has only made more apparent.
Belgium was, and still remains, the ultimate devolution of power from the center out to the regions. This was pronounced to me as a CDN living in Flanders (Leuven, not Louvain) in 93/94 on how people viewed where they lived, how they thought of themselves and what was expected to be under the power of the region (Flanders), the language (Vlaams) vs what role Brussels/Bruxelles had in the day to day lives of the people. Don't get me talking about language in Belgium, the fact that whole cities/towns/villages/areas have completely different names depending on if you live in Flanders vs Wallonia is crazy, confusing and maddening - Leuven/Louvain, Namur/Namen, Liege/Luik, Gent/Ghent, Bruges/Bruggen, Anwers/Antwerp - as some quick top of them head examples.
Moving then on to Prague in mid 95,(roughly 18 months after the breakup of Czechoslovakia to the Czech Republic and Slovakia), for work gave me another unique perspective on how people viewed themselves, their capital, the regions (Bohemia vs Moravia vs Prague) and the former Slovak areas after a very civilized breakup was interesting.
All this to say that I don't see the question of 'separation' going away in Quebec. If various regions/areas in Europe continue to gain more control of their daily lives and taxes, it will only serve to strengthen the cause of those wanting more in Quebec.
In addition, I dare say that I could even see in the next 20yrs talk of similar 'separations' even being considered in the US.
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A podcast full of Kory "Liberal lobbyist from out east" Teneycke at his sharpest on Canadaland 
www.canadaland.com
BB 195 Kory Teneycke on Why he Called Poilievre a P***y
Pierre Poilievre has a lot of haters. But his biggest hater might just be Kory Teneycke. This is a guy who comes from inside the Conservative machine. He was Stephen Harper's communications director. He helped Doug Ford win. Then win again. Then again.
www.canadaland.com
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A podcast full of Kory "Liberal lobbyist from out east" Teneycke at his sharpest on Canadaland
BB 195 Kory Teneycke on Why he Called Poilievre a P***y
Pierre Poilievre has a lot of haters. But his biggest hater might just be Kory Teneycke. This is a guy who comes from inside the Conservative machine. He was Stephen Harper's communications director. He helped Doug Ford win. Then win again. Then again.
I just wish he would say how he really felt…
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Putting this here instead of the IRN thread because this'll likely bubble up more here than in theatre.
Team Blue says it's time to reach out to (at least potential) Shah 2.0.
www.ctvnews.ca
This from Team Blue's coach's socials earlier today:
Team Blue says it's time to reach out to (at least potential) Shah 2.0.
Conservative leader invites Iran’s exiled crown prince to Canada
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has invited the former crown prince of Iran, who is pitching himself as the best option to lead Iran back to democracy, to visit Canada.
www.ctvnews.ca
HavokFour
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We may benefit from the spat Anthropic has been having with the management down south.
betakit.com
Anthropic job posting suggests it’s eyeing Alberta for data centre buildout | BetaKit
AI giant hiring community engagement manager and national compute lead to bring “gigawatts of compute” to Canada.
betakit.com
PrairieFella
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What benefit? Data centres have exactly zero domestic benefit and they aint relocating all of Anthropic here.We may benefit from the spat Anthropic has been having with the management down south.
Anthropic job posting suggests it’s eyeing Alberta for data centre buildout | BetaKit
AI giant hiring community engagement manager and national compute lead to bring “gigawatts of compute” to Canada.
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Have you read the WSJ piece on the wife/girlfriend of the CEO of Anthropic? Spend the time and do so. It's eye-opening to say the least......I'll leave it at that.We may benefit from the spat Anthropic has been having with the management down south.
Anthropic job posting suggests it’s eyeing Alberta for data centre buildout | BetaKit
AI giant hiring community engagement manager and national compute lead to bring “gigawatts of compute” to Canada.
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Disagreed.
Canada will not have AI that is both sovereign (to the extent any country can) AND frontier. There are two frontier companies in the west; OpenAI and Anthropic. Both are solidly U.S. based. Their IP is all down there, their engineering, their labs… their physical infrastructure is largely NVIDIA, also US based though with most of their chip fabrication outsourced to Taiwan. Regardless, any non-China frontier AI contender depends on both their own tech and on chips that are controlled technology by the U.S.
Canada does have one strong but niche AI company in Cohere, but realistically there’s no catching up to the two frontier companies.
So, if Canada wants access to frontier models - and we very much do - our best leverage comes from becoming part of the supply/infrastructure chain. Hosting a chunk of Anthropic’s compute is a wise course of action for us to be able to parlay it into AI model access. It’s also useful from a geopolitical standpoint for Canada to be able to position ourselves as a physically and geographically safe infrastructure host, with reliable energy and a distinct lack of incoming ballistic missiles and drones.
Everyone who’s not the U.S. or China is behind on AI. We won’t catch up with making our own to try to accomplish the same thing, so let’s be a partner where we can to those who already do.
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Assuming of course the AI companies secure their next round of financing and don't leave everyone else in the economy in the lurch....
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Corporate ownership of data centres is more important than location. Microsoft is a US corporation, subject to US law, so even a Canadian location for a data centre will still give all our data to the US government if requested.
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100% true.
Data needs to reside in Canada under a CDN owned entity.
Yes, but that’s the case regardless.
Yes, that that will inherently limit what we have access to, and we need to recognize and be prepared for the reality that some technology we cannot domestically substitute.
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Yes, 100% again.
Data and the ability to analyse/sort/store massive volumes of it will be the equivalent of coal mines, steel mills and power stations of the 1926’s.
The story has to be told that CDN owned AI data centres are sovereign to Canada and will help secure our future.
For sure. We just can’t allow some myth to be built up that we’ll be able to have sovereign control of frontier models. That’s not a thing. We will probably be able to have sovereign controls over models a bit behind that, which for most cases will still be more than adequate.
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Information and instructions should still be separable.
Halifax Tar
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Shes umm... Interesting, and that doesn't necessarily have a positive meaning...
I found this article and quote noteworthy.
Cami Clark—Dario Amodei’s Wife—Wanted Jeffrey Epstein To Invest In Porn Business
Clark approached Epstein after he had already been convicted for soliciting prostitution.
www.forbes.com
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