17 Oct 2026: Major fire at CFB Wainwright

[dapaterson]

Looking towards the future, I really hope units etc triple check paperwork trails. Id hate to see these troops get the run around from VAC because of a missing document.

People being told to update their information and failing to do so is not a CAF problem. The CoC needs to take responsibility for the administration of their subordinates.

 

[ModlrMike]

People being told to update their information and failing to do so is not a CAF problem. The CoC needs to take responsibility for the administration of their subordinates.

Yes, but people also need to take responsibility for their own administration. We can only have so many ORVs per year, and we can only badger folks so often. It was a little easier as a ResF CO after I enforced a policy that no one went on tasking without a completed and verified NOK form.

 

[OldSolduer]

excuse me but there are a few internet assholes who need to be:

a. Throat punched;
b. Keyboards and devices seized until they can figure things out; and
c. Banned from social media.

My Niner Domestic informed me that a friend of one of the fatalities wants to start a Go Fund Me. Good I say, if it helps do it.

Some internet asshole asks "why should you do that, the government will pay for everything". Throat punch.

My response would have been "shut the fuck up and mind your own business"

 

[dapaterson]

Yes, but people also need to take responsibility for their own administration. We can only have so many ORVs per year, and we can only badger folks so often. It was a little easier as a ResF CO after I enforced a policy that no one went on tasking without a completed and verified NOK form.

Individual responsibility seems to be lacking too often.

I experienced searching for someone based on the name of their spouse... and determined that despite being together for over a decade, the senior officer in question had never updated their NoK or pension beneficiary.

 

[Maxman1]

Based on being a Met Tech and confirming the forecast and weather warnings were issued before posting... but sure.

It was sarcasm. I was joking about how you're the resident SME.

 

[MilEME09]

Individual responsibility seems to be lacking too often.

I experienced searching for someone based on the name of their spouse... and determined that despite being together for over a decade, the senior officer in question had never updated their NoK or pension beneficiary.

I was more referring to the CF98s, 663s, witness statements etc that VAC would need, not oeioles personal admin

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Black Cloud Six who is a retired senior Canadian Army officer gives a quick brief on how training exercises (dry or live) are conducted and the people in the background who do all the coordinating (Range Control, RSOs, etc).

The Tragedy at Wainwright: How the Army Manages Risk

I am still reeling at the news out of Wainwright, Alberta over the last couple of days.

blackcloudsix.substack.com

 

[OldSolduer]

Black Cloud Six who is a retired senior Canadian Army officer gives a quick brief on how training exercises (dry or live) are conducted and the people in the background who do all the coordinating (Range Control, RSOs, etc).

The Tragedy at Wainwright: How the Army Manages Risk

I am still reeling at the news out of Wainwright, Alberta over the last couple of days.

blackcloudsix.substack.com

I looked at this, he’s right.

It does remind us even training can be very dangerous. He’s right there too.

 

[medicineman]

I was more referring to the CF98s, 663s, witness statements etc that VAC would need, not oeioles personal admin

I looked at this, he’s right.

It does remind us even training can be very dangerous. He’s right there too.

My second year in 1 Fd Amb, we were setting up our BMS out in Wainwright for a Brigade Ex when something came over the Range Control net about a No Duff on one of the ranges - some Reservists from the SALH IIRC were out on a range and one of the troops set off a UXO on an old mortar or Carl G range - one guy died and another was seriously injured. This was like 1990 or so - can only imagine how messed up that went administratively for the deceased and the wounded guy. Given how I'd seen some Reservists treated that were injured/wounded during the UNPROFOR days, I can't imagine things went that well...

 

[MilEME09]

My second year in 1 Fd Amb, we were setting up our BMS out in Wainwright for a Brigade Ex when something came over the Range Control net about a No Duff on one of the ranges - some Reservists from the SALH IIRC were out on a range and one of the troops set off a UXO on an old mortar or Carl G range - one guy died and another was seriously injured. This was like 1990 or so - can only imagine how messed up that went administratively for the deceased and the wounded guy. Given how I'd seen some Reservists treated that were injured/wounded during the UNPROFOR days, I can't imagine things went that well...

Unfortunately there has been many reports fron the ombudsman, and others on reservists being treated as second class soldiers by VAC when injured.

 

[Kilted]

Unfortunately there has been many reports fron the ombudsman, and others on reservists being treated as second class soldiers by VAC when injured.

Nothing like showing up to the MIR on a Class B on base for the summer and being told "o wait, you're a reservist, we can't treat you for this."