17 Sep 2016 - Explosions in NJ and NY

[The Bread Guy]

Yes, indeed they are, but Da'esh/ISIL/ISIS and all the other assorted jihadi/extremist groups are "reaching out" to Donald Trump every time they blow up something or, worse, someone ... my guess is that on or two more of these attacks and a few Democratic blue states will turn Republican red in November, making the electoral college votes much, much closer than anyone anticipated just a couple of months ago.

 

[The Bread Guy]

If I were a New Yorker, I would be more worried about the mayor and governor's need to come out before the evidence and do everything possible to not blame the islamists with some of the most amazing convoluted language in the history of political PC.  They were almost pathological in their need to convince everyone, very PC.

Yeah, nothing like saying you're not sure when you're not sure - here's the latest quote:

... Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, who said on Sunday that the attack did not appear to have a link to international terrorism, said new evidence might change that thinking.

“I would not be surprised if we did have a foreign connection to the act,” he said on CNN on Monday morning ...

How dare he not guess ...

 

[Lightguns]

Yeah, nothing like saying you're not sure when you're not sure - here's the latest quote:How dare he not guess ...

No one is expecting him to guess.  A simple statement that he will wait for his experts to decide on the evidence was sufficient.  This is what political leaders used to do before the PC pandering age.  WAIT, in effect he did guess by going straight to "the attack did not appear to have a link to international terrorism" to pander to the voters he is reaching out to.  His after thoughts were just an attempt to pacify his core voters that he takes for granted.  Again, keep your pandering mouth shut and let the evidence speak.  But really, once they started talking cellphone activated bombs, I kind of figured it was not Gamergaters trying to get even for a lack of HALO game updates........

 

[The Bread Guy]

... in effect he did guess by going straight to "the attack did not appear to have a link to international terrorism" to pander to the voters he is reaching out to ...

... The mayor called the explosion “an intentional act” but said at a news conference late on Saturday night that there was no known connection to terrorism ...

"We don't have information right now indicating x" =/= a "guess" ("an opinion that one reaches or to which one commits oneself on the basis of probability alone or in the absence of any evidence whatever")

... once they started talking cellphone activated bombs, I kind of figured it was not Gamergaters trying to get even for a lack of HALO game updates........

Very true, dat ...

 

[George Wallace]

No one is expecting him to guess.  A simple statement that he will wait for his experts to decide on the evidence was sufficient. 

Ummmm.  In the Press scrums I saw, that is exactly what the Mayor, Chief of Police, etc. were all saying. 

 

[mariomike]

Ahmad Khan Rahami the suspect wanted in NYC, NJ bombings is in custody after shooting two Police Officers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/man-wanted-nyc-nj-bombings-arrested-shooting-police-officer-article-1.2797960?utm_content=buffer8ebd5&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=buffer&utm_source=facebook.com

It is being reported, by Reuters among others, that two police officers were shot in the shootout with Ahmad Khan Rahami that preceded his capture in Linden, New Jersey.

Reuters quotes Elizabeth mayor Chris Bollwage as saying one officer was hit in the protective vest and the other in the hand: sources cited by other media organisations say both officers are expected to survive.

 

[Haggis]

Ahmad Khan Rahami the suspect wanted in NYC, NJ bombings is in custody after shooting two Police Officers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/man-wanted-nyc-nj-bombings-arrested-shooting-police-officer-article-1.2797960?utm_content=buffer8ebd5&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=buffer&utm_source=facebook.com
Reuters quotes Elizabeth mayor Chris Bollwage as saying one officer was hit in the protective vest and the other in the hand: sources cited by other media organisations say both officers are expected to survive.

That's at least the second US officer saved by their protective vest this week.  This from an article, shared with the usual disclaimers, on the shooting in Philly of Sgt Sylvia Young last Friday.

"Miller and Young, a 19-year police veteran, were in stable condition Saturday at Penn Presbyterian Hospital. Young was struck up to eight times. Bullets hit her protective vest and her left arm.

Mayor Jim Kenney praised officers and pleaded with them to follow Young's example and wear their protective vests.

"Thank you for what you do for us every day, and please, please, please, every shift, please wear your vest," he said. "They will save your life, as we saw tonight."

It's unfortunate that the mayor still has to encourage officers to wear their body armour.

 

[gryphonv]

The fact they caught him alive is great though. Very rare as it is.

 

[mariomike]

It's unfortunate that the mayor still has to encourage officers to wear their body armour.

"...please, please, please, every shift, please wear your vest,"

Very kind of the mayor to beg  ask so nicely.

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Cleveland EMS is stepping up safety measures with a new policy that requires Paramedics and EMTs to wear bulletproof vests during every call.
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/01/bulletproof_vests_now_mandatory.html

That's not a polite request. It's an order.

We were offered vests in 1999. Just one condition. They had to been worn at all times. Except in stations, hospitals, in-service medical education, or court.

Guess how that  vote went. 

Regarding the bombing,

The bombing closed Hospitals, poor EMS response times: How New York City dodged a bullet.
http://observer.com/2016/09/new-york-dodged-a-bullet-on-saturday-night/
The City needs to reduce ambulance response times to prepare for future terror attacks.

FDNY transported 20 patients. Only one was seriously injured, and all have since been released from hospital.

Had the terrorists proved more proficient and managed to detonate the second bomb or launched a larger attack that caused mass casualties...

 

[cupper]

Having driven through that section of Manhattan during midday I can say that the writer's recommendation of having dedicated lanes for first responders is a delusional dream. Last summer I was heading to a jobsite in Queens, and my GPS took me across Manhattan on 34th street, from the Lincoln Tunnel to the Midtown Tunnel. This is about 7 blocks north of where the second bomb was found. At midday I was in heavy traffic, and it took about 30 minutes to go the 1.6 miles from tunnel to tunnel. And there was an emergency vehicle trying to move through that traffic at the same time.

Also, They were more lucky that the incident occurred at night on the weekend. Had this occurred during the week, during the normal work day, traffic would turn into absolute gridlock, and would just keep extending out as more traffic moved towards the effected area until the word got out to avoid Manhattan altogether.

 

[mariomike]

Also, They were more lucky that the incident occurred at night on the weekend. Had this occurred during the week, during the normal work day, traffic would turn into absolute gridlock, and would just keep extending out as more traffic moved towards the effected area until the word got out to avoid Manhattan altogether.

I read that the bomb went of in one of Manhattan's most LGBT+ friendly neighborhoods. Perhaps the fact that it went off at 8:30 p.m on a Saturday night was no accident? < speculation only.

 

[Lightguns]

I read that the bomb went of in one of Manhattan's most LGBT+ friendly neighborhoods. Perhaps the fact that it went off at 8:30 p.m on a Saturday night was no accident? < speculation only.

Maybe another gay Middle Easterner whose religion is at odds with his desires while being unable to score a local boyfriend?  Speculation only!

 

[Jarnhamar]

If I were a New Yorker, I would be more worried about the mayor and governor's need to come out before the evidence and do everything possible to not blame the islamists with some of the most amazing convoluted language in the history of political PC.  They were almost pathological in their need to convince everyone, very PC.

That's what I took away from their responses as well.


I'm  surprised the BlackLivesMatter crowd isn't throwing a hissy fit yet because someone else is in the news.

 

[mariomike]

Having driven through that section of Manhattan during midday I can say that the writer's recommendation of having dedicated lanes for first responders is a delusional dream. Last summer I was heading to a jobsite in Queens, and my GPS took me across Manhattan on 34th street, from the Lincoln Tunnel to the Midtown Tunnel. This is about 7 blocks north of where the second bomb was found. At midday I was in heavy traffic, and it took about 30 minutes to go the 1.6 miles from tunnel to tunnel. And there was an emergency vehicle trying to move through that traffic at the same time.

Also, They were more lucky that the incident occurred at night on the weekend. Had this occurred during the week, during the normal work day, traffic would turn into absolute gridlock, and would just keep extending out as more traffic moved towards the effected area until the word got out to avoid Manhattan altogether.

I'm surprised FDNY does not operate Multi-Patient Units ( MPU ) for MCI / ASHE. I worked MPU steady after 1980.
You can get a lot done with a bus. Only takes a three-Paramedic crew, driver included. They are a wise investment, especially in these uncertain times.

The pic is from a night fire in Mississauga.  But, the principle was the same in rush-hour downtown traffic congestion. Just took a little longer. You're always fighting traffic in the GTA. As seen in the other pic. ( Love the big effin' A!  )

Nice vid of the alleged perp running from police in Linden, New Jersey with gun in hand.
http://abc7ny.com/news/bombing-suspect-ahmad-khan-rahami-captured-in-linden/1517053/

 

[ModlrMike]

Heck, even Winnipeg has a bus (MIRV - Major Incident Response Vehicle).

 

[cupper]

There are reports that investigators are looking into whether one of the bombs may have used hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD).

New York explosion: Everything we know so far

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/18/new-york-explosion-everything-we-know-so-far/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Both bombs in New York were filled with shrapnel and made with pressure cookers, flip phones, Christmas lights and explosive compound, The New York Times reported late on Sunday.

Reports on Sunday suggested the devices were packed with a chemical similar to Tannerite, used in shooting targets.

But by Monday police were investigating the suggestion that the bombs contained HMTD, or hexamethylene triperoxide diamine - a high explosive that is relative easy for terrorists to “home brew” from instructions found on the internet. HMTD is similar to triacetone triperoxide (TATP), used in the London tube bombings, the “Shoe Bomber” attempt to blow up an airliner, and the train station and airport bombings in Brussels earlier this year.

Link to Wikipedia page on HMTD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexamethylene_triperoxide_diamine

 

[mariomike]

Heck, even Winnipeg has a bus (MIRV - Major Incident Response Vehicle).

"It is one of only two such vehicles in Canada, the other belonging to the City of Toronto EMS. A second MIRV, smaller in capacity is still in use within the fleet.
It is one of only two such vehicles in Canada, the other belonging to the City of Toronto EMS."

I never heard them called MIRV. Always MPU. It was important to put the word "patient" in there.

We had quite a little fleet. We have used them since 1975. After a train hit a TTC bus. A 1961 GMC New Look "Fishbowl" that our Garage people retro-fitted in house was the first. That was the first ambulance bus I drove. Was quite a work-out with no power steering. Really not the best for emergency driving.

Then came the Orion 1's and Orion 2's ( extended ), Eldorado's, MCI coach. The Orion 1's were the real workhorses.

Also a Winnebago. But, you can imagine the weight with patients and crew and oxygen etc... Couldn't stop. The City got sued, and a head got rolled.

With a bus, with just three Paramedics, including the driver, you can release ambulances back into the system to handle regular 9-1-1 calls.

The buses also came in handy for "special" calls. VIPs, bariatric, heart and lung machines, multiple incubators etc. All the calls that were beyond the capacity of regular ambulances. The new low floor designs really save your back.

FDNY has buses. But, without seeing the interiors, it's hard to tell if they are for Command and Communication ( we had those ) or if they are true Multi-Patient Units. Looks like FDNY may be needing more, as there were complaints about response times to the bomb attack. Which bad as it was, could have been an awful lot worse...

GET WELL SOON: Linden, NJ Police Officers Angel Padilla and Peter Hammer & Mark Kahana (not pictured).

US soldiers assigned to protect Penn Station in a Starbucks.

Heavily armed teams of NYPD Police Officers are deployed to stand behind a barrier & protect their station. Looks like a scene out of Fort Apache the Bronx.

 

[tomahawk6]

Same MO as the Boston bombers with regard to use of pressure cookers.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Interesting exchange, indeed ...

Two years before Ahmad Khan Rahami went on a bombing rampage in New York and New Jersey, his father told the police that the son was a terrorist, prompting a review by federal agents, according to two senior law enforcement officials.

Separately on Tuesday, another official said that when Mr. Rahami was captured during a shootout with the police, he was carrying a notebook that contained writings sympathetic to jihadist causes.

In one section of the book, which was pierced by a bullethole and covered in blood, Mr. Rahami wrote of “killing the kuffar,” or unbeliever, according to the official, who agreed to speak about the investigation only on the condition of anonymity.

After Mr. Rahami was captured on Monday morning, ending one of the largest manhunts in the city’s history, investigators have turned their focus to what might have motivated, inspired or led him to plant bombs in the Chelsea section of Manhattan and on the Jersey Shore.

Officials are also looking at whether he had any assistance in building the bombs or if anyone knew what he was doing and failed to report it.

Of particular interest to the authorities is a series of trips Mr. Rahami made to Pakistan, once staying for nearly a year.

The father made the statement about his son being a terrorist to New Jersey police in 2014, when Mr. Rahami was arrested after a domestic dispute and accused of stabbing his brother.

The information was passed to the Joint Terrorism Task Force led by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Newark. Officers opened what is known as an assessment, the most basic of F.B.I. investigations, and interviewed the father, who then recanted.

An official, when asked about the inquiry, said the father made the comment out of anger at his son.

It is not clear if officers interviewed Ahmad Rahami.

On Tuesday morning, outside the family’s restaurant in Elizabeth, the father, Mohammad Rahami, told reporters, “I called the F.B.I. two years ago,” he said, shaking his fingers in the air.

Asked if he specifically meant his son, Mr. Rahami stormed away. A short time later, he responded to a reporter who asked, “Do you think your son is a terrorist?”

“No,” Mohammad Rahami said. “And the F.B.I., they know that.” ...

 

[Jarnhamar]

The father made the statement about his son being a terrorist to New Jersey police in 2014, when Mr. Rahami was arrested after a domestic dispute and accused of stabbing his brother.

lol
Whats a jihadist gotta do to get recognized these days?