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2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25
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Halifax Tar
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Good!
daftandbarmy
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Well...
Good news: it was dropped to zero.
Bad news: the law is still in place.
He can reimpose the tax whenever he wants to.
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As a sign of good faith before the election and after Parliament has returned, we should at least see an effort to amend Legislation (mindful that takes multiple reading in the House and Senate for Royal Assent).
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Lest we experience things differently afterwards…
I think we would all love to see silly policies walked back.
The party that's going to really get me to consider voting for them is going tk be the party that doesn't introduce stupid policies to begin with...and so far the Liberals are failing miserably at that
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Carney, so far, has done exactly what he said he would do. And while rare for a politician, in our case that should make everybody very nervous...
Because eliminating the consumer carbon tax is only part one of his carbon tax plan.
The second part is to hike the industrial carbon tax up dramatically, because its "far too low..." (his own words, not mine)
This will cause a lot of companies to cease operations in Canada and move to the US, especially at a time when the US is lowering it's corporate taxes & pulling out all the stops to encourage companies to move there.
Companies will look at Canada with our boldly rising carbon taxes & personal income taxes...then look at America with it slashing it's corporate taxes & lower income taxes...and the numbers will make their decision for them.
So not only will companies pass the increased cost of doing business down to the customer (for him to say they won't is absurdly stupid), but get ready for a bunch of companies to leave the country altogether.
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Jagmeet, being the absolute sell-out that he is, I can almost guarantee will make a deal that will delay an election.
He will want to introduce more socialist policies in exchange for the NDP to prop up the LPC & keep them in power. Like he always does.
He won't join the CPC in a non-confidence motion. He's had that opportunity plenty of times, and not once has he taken it.
He also has his pension now, so he really doesn't 'need' to care...
He'll try to trot out some policy for workers, and as long as the Liberals pay it some lip service he will sell out the country like he always does.
We need an election. ASAP.
When Trudeau prorogued parliament, he could have called for an election. But as expected, he didn't...
The Liberal Party of Canada has lost so many seats, lost the last few by-elections, and will cling to power however they can - regardless of how undemocratic and dirty the play is.
My 2 cents
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I suspect that's too much of a "holy grail" to the base for Team Red to touch, especially for the approximately half of Canada's population living in parts of Canada where routine & responsible firearms use hasn't traditionally been part of the culture.
That said, Team Blue seems to be making some progress in that red bit, but I'm going to guess it's for either economic or social conservative reasons, not necessarily firearms rules. We'll have to see.
Halifax Tar
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There are 2+ million PAL holders in Canada.
When only 17 million Canadians are casting votes, that 11% could be an important block.
When only 17 million Canadians are casting votes, that 11% could be an important block.
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Thanks for ruining my morning.
Didnt need a reminder of what we could have had for PM if it wasn't for the CPC having/choosing to carry around the albatross that is people who would vote for Derek Sloan
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Depends on which 17 million are voting, though, where they live, and if all PAL owners are voting - as you said elsewhere about how the political riding deck gets shuffled during elections.
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I just going by the Wikipedia listed voter turnout our numbers.
It doesn't break down riding.
But I have to imagine the majority of those PAL holders are in your red highlighted area of the country. Just because the majority of Canadians live there.
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Statistically speaking I agree, but intuitively, I’m gonna guess a larger proportion of the other, (relatively) more rural part own guns for personal use. Will have to hunt a bit, though, to take that from my gut to something resembling a fact.
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That sounds like it should be right rural = more guns. But I think with our population disparity between rural and urban I feel like that may not be the case.
Ratios of house holds with firearms may be more slanted towards rural, but I suspect in pure weight of volume our urbanites win hands down.
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In terms of firearms owners being a potential voting bloc, I think extrapolating views from changes in firearms policy isn’t going to universally apply… rural vs urban gun owners might look pretty different in terms of what they own and what they use it for. Someone with a couple hunting rifles and a shotgun for goose might not be as engaged on changes to restricted classifications.
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The derogatory term for them is Fudd, as in Elmer fudd. And they definitely do exist.
I only know one personally. But they do exist.
338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections
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Lots to absorb in this one. But the CPC is falling behind. Projected seat count is essentially tied but the odds of a CPC party grabbing more seats than the LPC is the lowest it has been and the LPC probability is now higher.
Campaign could start as soon as next week. More than ever this campaign will matter.
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Yeap virtually neck and neck,338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections
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Lots to absorb in this one. But the CPC is falling behind. Projected seat count is essentially ties but the odds of a CPC party grabbing more seats than the LPC is the lowest it has been and the LPC probability is now higher.
Campaign could start as soon as next week. More than ever this campaign will matter.
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The Consumer Carbon Tax has NOT been eliminated, it has not been stricken from the act. It is still law.
It has been unilaterally reduced to a zero point place on a vote buying whim.
It can be raised again to any plus point Carney wishes and when he wishes. It was reduced via OIC and can be raised again by the same means. Nobody but Carney, and more properly, the GG, needs to agree to do it.
It will only affect your pump price. It won't lower the cost of groceries or consumer goods. It might even raise those costs.
Now, you can believe Trudeau 2.0 has your best interest in mind and will never, ever move it to the plus column again.
Or you can believe it was a typical liberal move to take that 'Axe the Tax' talking point away from Conservatives and try to garner votes from the gullible.
And for someone who derides Trump, Carney sure likes Trump's theater.
To make sure he got credit, he signed hisExecutive Order Order in Council with the same flair and pomposity as Trump.
I say useless because his order 'Instructed' the removal of the consumer tax. He did not Eliminate the Consumer Carbon Price as the document is titled. He reduced it to zero. Far from the same thing. The whole thing isn't worth the paper it's written on.
He can't 'Instruct' anything. He can only make a recommendation to the GG. It is her responsibility to look at it, agree to it, then issue it.
A federal order-in-council is a statutory instrument by which the governor general (the executive power of the governor-in-council), acting on the advice and consent of the King's Privy Council for Canada, expresses a decision. In practice, orders-in-council are drafted by Cabinet and formally approved by the governor general. Orders-in-council are not discussed by Parliament, and do not require legislation by Parliament, before being implemented.
The Gazetted version is the real OIC. Not this theatrical, misdirectional, slight of hand move the liberals are famous for.
The whole signing ceremony was pure, plagiarised Trumpian theater, even to the Sharpie he used to sign it.
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It has been unilaterally reduced to a zero point place on a vote buying whim.
It can be raised again to any plus point Carney wishes and when he wishes. It was reduced via OIC and can be raised again by the same means. Nobody but Carney, and more properly, the GG, needs to agree to do it.
It will only affect your pump price. It won't lower the cost of groceries or consumer goods. It might even raise those costs.
Now, you can believe Trudeau 2.0 has your best interest in mind and will never, ever move it to the plus column again.
Or you can believe it was a typical liberal move to take that 'Axe the Tax' talking point away from Conservatives and try to garner votes from the gullible.
And for someone who derides Trump, Carney sure likes Trump's theater.
To make sure he got credit, he signed his
I say useless because his order 'Instructed' the removal of the consumer tax. He did not Eliminate the Consumer Carbon Price as the document is titled. He reduced it to zero. Far from the same thing. The whole thing isn't worth the paper it's written on.
He can't 'Instruct' anything. He can only make a recommendation to the GG. It is her responsibility to look at it, agree to it, then issue it.
A federal order-in-council is a statutory instrument by which the governor general (the executive power of the governor-in-council), acting on the advice and consent of the King's Privy Council for Canada, expresses a decision. In practice, orders-in-council are drafted by Cabinet and formally approved by the governor general. Orders-in-council are not discussed by Parliament, and do not require legislation by Parliament, before being implemented.
The Gazetted version is the real OIC. Not this theatrical, misdirectional, slight of hand move the liberals are famous for.
The whole signing ceremony was pure, plagiarised Trumpian theater, even to the Sharpie he used to sign it.
Newsroom Ready: Carney scraps consumer carbon price in first cabinet meeting as prime minister
In his first cabinet meeting as prime minister, Mark Carney says Ottawa will end the consumer carbon price. Carney says people who have been getting a rebate on the carbon price will get one final payment for the next quarter in April. (March 14, 2025)
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February 2nd CTV Atlantic, 3:36
March 12 Hamilton Spectator
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March 12 Hamilton Spectator
Mark Carney visits Hamilton’s Dofasco as U.S. steel tariffs come into effect
The prime minister-designate says he is ready to meet with U.S. President Donald Trump.
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Interesting to see the projection at a point where it cleanly shows the LOC advantage in vote efficiency- 3 point popular vote advantage to CPC, but a one seat advantage to LPC in projected seats. That’s even taking into account that most LPC popular support in the prairies does the square root of frig all for them seats wise.338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections
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Lots to absorb in this one. But the CPC is falling behind. Projected seat count is essentially tied but the odds of a CPC party grabbing more seats than the LPC is the lowest it has been and the LPC probability is now higher.
Campaign could start as soon as next week. More than ever this campaign will matter.
I noticed the recent Ekos poll seems to be omitted from their figuring. Not sure if it’s just a matter of the data’s not all publicly released, or simply being cautious.
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