If they are really diverting ressources to his riding then their internal polling must be worrying them to be sure.
Apparently Fanjoy has been getting donations from across the country…not too bad for an NPC candidate.
2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25
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Apparently Fanjoy has been getting donations from across the country…not too bad for an NPC candidate.
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Good to see the CPC continues to show this election cycle that they have a real grasp on what ranks high on the countries list of immediate priorities.
Conservatives update platform to include omitted 'anti-woke' promise
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I hope this doesn’t translate like it did in the States and they start removing any references to Sgt. Tommy Prince, the Victoria Pioneer Rifle Corps, etc.
He’s put the work in for sure. I wonder if he’ll take another stab at it in a byelection in the next year or two?
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It was nice to walk into the polling station and vote CFP and walk out.
Nice to vote for an actual party I support. Also helps that my vote wont matter so I could vote my conscience , but on a personal level, very nice indeed.
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If he loses the election, and his seat, do you think the party will give him a chance?
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Depends, he actually isn’t doing bad by any means. Even with the polls, he is doing what the Conservatives average at, even above the normal average.
The Conservatives problem isn’t that they are running a bad campaign, it’s that the NDP are running a terrible one.
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That's good. He's been a pretty solid premier.
I think @Lumber will agree with me that I think he would be a great Fed leader. He might lack national name recognition though...
I'm just not sure what party he would run for. He's an old school NS PC.
I doubt he’ll lose his seat but it might be close. I was just thinking if Poilievre loses the election overall, does he move on from parliamentary politics and step down entirely in the next year or two? If he does and there’s a byelection for his seat, I could see the current LPC candidate going for it and trying to flip it in a byelection.
This may be the start of trying to get that name recognition.
Old school PC is what the CPC might need if this election projection happens.
All for seeing viable candidates step up if that happens.
Yeah, I can’t see why else he’d be doing that now.
It’ll be interesting if we see the post-election CPC eventually transition into a battle for control of the helm between several provincial progressive conservatives. I can’t see the Poilievre faction or the western Canadian faction. willingly being left out in the cold, but they just can’t keep doing the same thing and hoping it’ll work.
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That makes the woke re-inclusion feel like a flinch, for sure.”
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I'd love to see him go further.
The right doesn't need a fracture. It's strong because they united. Breaking means resigning to an eternity of LPC leadership.
Are they smart enough to realize that ? That is the question.
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Not to worry, my man - all those US subs transiting what they consider international waters are probably all over it
Agreed, a fracture would likely be bad for the right… Unless things evolved such that two right wing parties each played to their strengths, capturing a larger overall vote share and allowing one or both to eventually form a minority government with a supply and confidence agreement, or an outright coalition. It would shake things up for a couple elections. But it could just cycle right back to ‘unite the right’.
The Conservatives will still enter the next election with the conventionally perceived advantage of the LPC having clearly hit what in Canada is usually a best by date. Hell, that should have given it to them in this one but for a combination of a) they fucked it up, and b) Trudeau’s resignation wound back the odometer a bit. Unless Carney really fundamentally changes the LPC’s policy approaches though, the diaper should be over-full come the next election.
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As I alluded to last night, my answer to that is don't bet on it. Leader of the Opposition is a pretty nice gig, and one that his skillset lends itself to. Why would he re-sign? Even just using this thread as a microsm of CPC membership, a material proportion will not blame him for the loss. He took the leadership with just under 300k first ballot votes. In 2020 there was 175k combined total votes. The messaging that was seemingly innefectual at creating broader electorate support has been damn effective at creating an emotionally and intellectually committed core group of support. As for caucus, the PC wing will almost certainly be outnumbered if overall seats are pushed back into strongholds.
I think he has the CPC by the balls
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Your diaper has been leaking on the floor for a few elections. If the Liberals just change leaders the public memory seems to vanish.
I should be more clear:
If the CPC lose this election, Poilievre will have achieved one of the most humiliating failures in modern Canadian political history, failing to pivot to obvious events and blowing a 25+ point lead in mere months. His party will hold a leadership process and will throw him out on his ass in disgrace. You don’t reinforce that kind of failure, and the CPC would be insane to give him another chance. I’m talking about him staying in Parliament after that, or whether he would step down due to the ignominy of trying, failing so badly, and being politically relegated. Although I guess it’s not like he has a career or profession before politics to fall back on…
I suspect he would have three fronts to fight off. Caucus, membership and what seems to be a provincial faction.
Caucus: I suspect he’ll get most of that support at least initially but it will be tenuous. Losing seats and a segment that was being patient being muzzled as long as they get a victory may lead to some resentment.
Membership: He’ll have a solid base there. But it will be the base and the extended tent might get turned off. Watch for a turn to the harder right in the coming days if he feels the winds are blowing a certain way.
Provincial faction: that might be a challenge if someone like Ford who has a well developed machine behind him pushes to have a revolt.
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I wholly agree with you- I'm just not convinced that's the way it will go down. I question the degree to which the "the CPC" as an entity will have the ability to act independently of his grassroots influence. Say what you (well, we) want about the Poilievre/ Byrne team's apparent choke job and lack of ability to win an election, they've shown an unprecedented (for Canada) ability to inflame passion and mobilize. Looking at what the blackhats/ Take Back Alberta have done to the UCP......
The believers aren't going to blame him for losing, they're going to blame the rest of Canada for not choosing him.
@Remius- agree with the potential vectors, but as above- not sure that they'll have the strength.
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