PrairieFella
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Poilievre down 1800ish votes now. I'm sure there are some interesting conversations happening at the CPC national level atm. What to do, what to do.
2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25
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OldSolduer
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Well it seems the die have been cast.
Thanks to DJT and the gullibility of the elbows up crowd….
We get the government we deserve don’t we?
Thanks to DJT and the gullibility of the elbows up crowd….
We get the government we deserve don’t we?
MilEME09
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Gullibility or just not reading ever room right? Pierre is having the best cpc voter turn out since the 80s, but is poised to lose his seat and not form government. Carney flipped a good number of NDP seats but also traded some seats with the cpc. Both are neck and neck in popular vote. With how the cookie will crumble, they will be forced to work together because I think if any party forces another election to soon, they will get punished for it
Down 2127 with 130/233 polls reporting. So far he isn’t catching up. However we have no idea which votes are being counted, and if there’s a skew in play eg advanced votes, certain urban vs rural polls etc.
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Who went where, according to the National Post
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Late add: Initial reports of one new team coach, coming up!
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Canadian election results: Riding-by-riding maps and graphics
Our riding-by-riding graphics will update with the results from Elections Canada. Get the latest on Canada's election result
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Late add: Initial reports of one new team coach, coming up!
CP NewsAlert: Jagmeet Singh to step down as NDP Leader after losing seat
OTTAWA - Jagmeet Singh says he will step down as the leader of the NDP as soon as new interim leader is chosen.
Now at 240/266. Fanjoy’s still ahead by 1658. Poilievre has been catching up slightly with most (not all) updates, but not at all close to the pace he needs, and the pace he needs to catch up with what’s left keeps getting harder to achieve.
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Ugh. The worst possible outcome. A Liberal minority which relies on a fringe NDP and Lizzie May. In these uncertain times, we would have been better served with a Liberal majority. Now we have an extremely unstable minority government.
The best solution would be a Liberal/Conservative Grand Coalition like we see in Germany. But I can't imagine that happening...
The best solution would be a Liberal/Conservative Grand Coalition like we see in Germany. But I can't imagine that happening...
May won’t be in the equation. Assuming the numbers now don’t change much, NDP will be enough to prop them up. So, status quo ante, minus Trudeau, the Carbon Tax, Singh. and probably Pierre Poilievre.
If we wake up to a confirmed minority, that’s not a bad thing. If in the next year or two Carney doesn’t cut the mustard, the opposition can get rid of him. He’ll be forced to deal to govern, which is not a terrible thing.
He might have kept his party relevant and able to continue to advance their policy for another couple years. They’re in a much better position in terms of moving their platform forward than they would have been as the loyal opposition to a CPC majority that could completely ignore them. While Singh himself is done, the federal NDP maintain a nucleus, and they have a strong provincial game to feed talent into the federal party before the next election.
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Well I guess that's that.
Good campaign to all who ran. To PM Carney and the LPC congratulations you get to remain at them helm. I hope what you do makes Canada better.
Good campaign to all who ran. To PM Carney and the LPC congratulations you get to remain at them helm. I hope what you do makes Canada better.
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Holy shit!!
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Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre loses Ottawa-area seat
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre has been defeated in Carleton, ending his nearly two-decade tenure as a Member of Parliament in the Ottawa-area riding.
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Holy shit!!
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre loses Ottawa-area seat
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre has been defeated in Carleton, ending his nearly two-decade tenure as a Member of Parliament in the Ottawa-area riding.
I think he became to polarizing of a figure. This is probably best for the CPC.
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I wonder how many votes Trump got...
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79% voter turnout. Not sure yet, but that could well be a record turnout level of any riding in any election.Holy shit!!
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre loses Ottawa-area seat
Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre has been defeated in Carleton, ending his nearly two-decade tenure as a Member of Parliament in the Ottawa-area riding.
Some (many) will see this as a repudiation of the flavor of Poilievre’s brand with an otherwise broader support of conservatism in Canada. Will be interesting to see how the CPC moves forward with Poilievre losing his seat in Parliament. He’s now firmly in the zone where *Carney took significant heat as a party leader, yet not an MP.
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Halifax Tar
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IMHO and just me, but he has to go. Losing the election is one thing, but losing his seat too... The Honorable man would step down and fade away.
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Some observations:
1. The polls were reasonably accurate. The final poll aggregates had the Liberals with a ~4 pt advantage over the Conservatives and the actual election popular vote looks like the Liberals will have a ~2 pt advantage over the Conservatives so within the margin of error. What was more inaccurate were the seat projections, but that’s not that surprising considering the uncertainty of trying to extrapolate riding level results from national and provincial level polling.
2. The Liberals gained seats, but the resulting minority government looks less stable than before the election because their most likely governing partner remains the NDP and the Liberals + NDP (currently 168 + 7 seats) have less of a seat cushion (3 seat cushion) above the majority threshold than before. The Liberals are going to need an experienced House Leader and Whip to manage votes otherwise they could pretty easily lose them unintentionally.
3. In terms of hopes that the Conservatives and Liberals will occasionally co-operate for the good of the country, that would have been more likely if Poilievre had squeaked out a tight win in his Carleton riding since he would have been pressured by his Carleton constituents to do so. Instead, given his Alberta roots, if Poilievre ends up taking over a safe Conservative seat in Alberta, the pressure from his new constituents is more likely to be to not compromise.
1. The polls were reasonably accurate. The final poll aggregates had the Liberals with a ~4 pt advantage over the Conservatives and the actual election popular vote looks like the Liberals will have a ~2 pt advantage over the Conservatives so within the margin of error. What was more inaccurate were the seat projections, but that’s not that surprising considering the uncertainty of trying to extrapolate riding level results from national and provincial level polling.
2. The Liberals gained seats, but the resulting minority government looks less stable than before the election because their most likely governing partner remains the NDP and the Liberals + NDP (currently 168 + 7 seats) have less of a seat cushion (3 seat cushion) above the majority threshold than before. The Liberals are going to need an experienced House Leader and Whip to manage votes otherwise they could pretty easily lose them unintentionally.
3. In terms of hopes that the Conservatives and Liberals will occasionally co-operate for the good of the country, that would have been more likely if Poilievre had squeaked out a tight win in his Carleton riding since he would have been pressured by his Carleton constituents to do so. Instead, given his Alberta roots, if Poilievre ends up taking over a safe Conservative seat in Alberta, the pressure from his new constituents is more likely to be to not compromise.
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Or if the minority still holds, subject to special ballot counts according to The Canadian Press ...
Elections Canada pauses vote counting with majority still in question
Elections Canada says it has decided to pause counting of special ballots until later Tuesday morning.
www.cp24.com
Under current leadership right this second, agreed, and agreed.
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A bunch of congrats:
- Congrats to everyone who voted.
- Congrats to Elections Canada and their team for running the balloting & counting. This is another key part of keeping democracy running.
- Congrats to all who ran and those who supported them. Win or lose, the system doesn't run without voters getting a choice, and the sacrifices made by the candidates, their teams & their families during the campaign made this happen.
- Finally, congrats to everyone participating in discussion on these means for sharing opinions and positions without, generally speaking, making enemies of those we don't agree with.
His support for the convoy, in an Ottawa riding, likely played a part. A lot of people in the ridding held that against him.
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