All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

[McG]

Are you moving towards arguing that I as a Canadian citizen should not be able to have and voice an opinion on this matter ?

No. I am saying the majority of Albertans should not be restrained from holding accountable the people who rode a political party like a Trojan Horse to force an unpopular separation referendum simply because you feel non-Albertans doing similar would feed alienation. Don't tell Albertans that Albertans can't clean their own house.

 

[Halifax Tar]

No. I am saying the majority of Albertans should not be restrained from holding accountable the people who rode a political party like a Trojan Horse to force an unpopular separation referendum simply because you feel non-Albertans doing similar would feed alienation.

When Biden beat Trump; Biden and the Dems had an opportunity to heal build bridges.

Instead the establishment, media and Gov hunted him, Trump. Hunted him right into an extremely polarized country and a Republican victory that has fully disorganized, split the Dems; and knocked them out for at least another term, if not more.

Canada will have the opportunity to show our separatist voting citizens why the stay movement is actually the better movement. I hope we don't squander that opportunity in order to fulfil some emotionally based desire for retribution.

 

[PrairieFella]

When Biden beat Trump; Biden and the Dems had an opportunity to heal build bridges.

Instead the establishment, media and Gov hunted him, Trump. Hunted him right into an extremely polarized country and a Republican victory that has fully disorganized, split the Dems; and knocked them out for at least another term, if not more.

Canada will have the opportunity to show our separatist voting citizens why the stay movement is actually the better movement. I hope we don't squander that opportunity in order to fulfil some emotionally based desire for retribution.

Forget retribution. We need to demonstrate we have the resolve to plug national security "holes". These separatists arent operating in good faith, their influencers have been shown to be foreign actors, their leadership are actively meeting with government officials of neighbouring (and frankly hostile) states and theyre backed by shadowy money. Its all the hallmarks of a foreign influence op. Surely youd be cool with reconciliation if they were funded and meeting with Chinese government officials after they threatened us, right?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Forget retribution. We need to demonstrate we have the resolve to plug national security "holes". These separatists arent operating in good faith, their influencers have been shown to be foreign actors, their leadership are actively meeting with government officials of neighbouring (and frankly hostile) states and theyre backed by shadowy money. Its all the hallmarks of a foreign influence op. Surely youd be cool with reconciliation if they were funded and meeting with Chinese government officials after they threatened us, right?

Hey man I don't have any control over any of this. I just worry about turning people into martyrs and emboldening and growing movements.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I can only speak for myself, but (and this may be an old-school Canadian view) there's got to be a way to deal with provable* outside interference in Canadian political processes (be it at the federal level, AB/QC separatism, whatever) in a way that both 1) nails the worst offenders consistently, hard and publicly, while 2) doesn't paint the others who have grievances that the worst offenders may have been using to pull their individual special agenda wagon.

Remember the whole convoy business? Some folks start using the word "traitors" and suddenly, it's easy to paint one side as a whole when loads of people were just pissed off, not driving a public movement for an agenda the pissed=off masses may not want or even understand.

I'll also admit that in these divisive times, I'm likely naive, too.

* - Yeah, I know - that, alone, opens a can of worms. Still, there's gotta be a way, even if a dummy like me doesn't know it.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Really?

Alberta, Canada flags creating division ahead of referendum | Globalnews.ca

The Alberta and Canadian flags have taken on new meaning as the province nears a vote on if the province should remain in Canada or hold a second, binding referendum on leaving.

globalnews.ca

 

[lenaitch]

Really?

Alberta, Canada flags creating division ahead of referendum | Globalnews.ca

The Alberta and Canadian flags have taken on new meaning as the province nears a vote on if the province should remain in Canada or hold a second, binding referendum on leaving.

globalnews.ca

Available on Amazon (several variations).

 

[mariomike]

Really?

Alberta, Canada flags creating division ahead of referendum | Globalnews.ca

The Alberta and Canadian flags have taken on new meaning as the province nears a vote on if the province should remain in Canada or hold a second, binding referendum on leaving.

globalnews.ca

Vexillological.

Learned a new word today.

 

[brihard]

Vexillological.

Learned a new word today.

Fitting given how vexed some are.

 

[Altair]

When Biden beat Trump; Biden and the Dems had an opportunity to heal build bridges.

Instead the establishment, media and Gov hunted him, Trump. Hunted him right into an extremely polarized country and a Republican victory that has fully disorganized, split the Dems; and knocked them out for at least another term, if not more.

The problem isn't that they hunted trump.

The problem is that they missed.

Brazil hunted Bolsonaro after he pulled his own version of January 6th and he's serving 27 years in prison.

The problem in the USA is that they have never, ever, held anyone guilty of any political wrongdoing accountable.

If you're going to swing, don't miss.

Canada will have the opportunity to show our separatist voting citizens why the stay movement is actually the better movement. I hope we don't squander that opportunity in order to fulfil some emotionally based desire for retribution.

Lock anyone who broke any law or colluded with any foreign government in jail for 20 years and people will get the message.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Lock anyone who broke any law or colluded with any foreign government in jail for 20 years and people will get the message.

You're in the wrong country if you think this government will do anything. They'd have to jail a bunch of their own people.

Speaking of which, how's that foreign agent registry going?

 

[brihard]

You're in the wrong country if you think this government will do anything. They'd have to jail a bunch of their own people.

Speaking of which, how's that foreign agent registry going?

The commissioner is appointed, the regulations are in place, and they come into force and take effect in just under three hours. There’s a 60 days period to newly register existing arrangements, and new arrangements must be registered with 14 days.

Gowling has a good summary here: Long awaited Canadian Foreign Agent Registry set to launch on August 4, 2026: All the legal requirements you need to know

 

[dapaterson]

Fitting given how vexed some are.

Vexed but not logical?

 

[Altair]

You're in the wrong country if you think this government will do anything. They'd have to jail a bunch of their own people.

On this we agree.

I don't see anyone having the cohones to do what should be done.

And if that's the case, don't do anything at all. Just smother them with apathy.

 

[Booter]

I giess being a seppie in an RCAF town isnt conducive to good business outcomes. Just a little schadenfreude here.

Alberta café northeast of Edmonton closes after losing customers over separatist event

An Alberta café owner says his business has shuttered after he hosted separatists and lost customers. John Ewanek says his café in Cold Lake, called Beantrees, was already struggling due to inflation. He says things got worse after he hosted multiple events earlier this year for a group...

edmonton.citynews.ca

I almost bought that coffee shop in 2009 for dirt cheap. I think it was 20 grand at the time. It was breaking even.

 

[MilEME09]

Another layer to peel off the separatist onion, this one's a bit spicy

https://twitter.com/x/status/2086825138679623926

 

[PrairieFella]

For those of us without twitter?

 

[dapaterson]

For those of us without twitter?

Original:

A mysterious cash surge for Alberta’s separatist party is tied to out-of-province donors

A Toronto Star investigation reveals some of the biggest donations to the Republican Party of Alberta appear to come from B.C. political insiders.

www.thestar.com

Archived:

https://archive.is/Iqvb7

 

[dapaterson]

The intersection between the BC Conservatives and Alberta Republicans is interesting / odd. The paper trail suggestive of illegal donations to the Alberta Republicans by BC residents with both BC NDP and BC Conservative connections is equally interesting.

 

[HavokFour]

Well this certainly doesn't sound good at all for the BC Conservatives.

As recently as last April, Chung was also listed as executive director on the Alberta Republican Party’s website under the name “Paul Chung,” and described as a “political campaigner with over 15 years of experience in provincial and municipal politics across B.C., Ontario, and Alberta.”

Two sources confirmed the photo of Paul Chung that was posted to the party’s website depicts the same Apollo Chung that has a long history in B.C. politics.

He now works as director of operations for Kerry-Lynne Findlay, the newly elected leader of the B.C. Conservative party, according to a screenshot of the B.C. Legislature’s internal directory, provided by the B.C. NDP party.