Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS

[Underway]

They have much more space to do that on a frigate than on a OPS.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Interviews of some of the officers of the HMCS Margaret Brooke

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Seems like the RCN made a good choice on the all rank cafeteria.

HMCS Margaret Brooke crew praise new platform ahead of ice trials | Trident Newspaper

 

[Underway]

It's a no-brainer on a ship that size. The shore office "lunch meeting" is carried over to the ship. A lot can get done if you have lunch with your department. A lot of problems can get fixed early when you're able to just have some soup with the LS who seems a bit down that day.

 

[dapaterson]

Are those concepts being carried over to CSC as well?

 

[Underway]

Not that I'm aware of. Certainly not on the JSS. Much harder to do on a larger ship. The messes are separate for a reason. And there really isn't space for messes and a cafeteria.

 

[dimsum]

The messes are separate for a reason.

But why would they be good for the AOPS but not CSC? Wouldn't it be good to have soup with the S1 there too, as you said?

 

[FSTO]

But why would they be good for the AOPS but not CSC? Wouldn't it be good to have soup with the S1 there too, as you said?

AOPS is just a big fat civvy ship with limited DC capabilities and no war fighting capabilities. Therefore tons of room to make everyone comfortable (re: civilians going to sea)

CSC? The smoking pit is where you talk to (actually listen to) the killicks!

 

[Navy_Pete]

But why would they be good for the AOPS but not CSC? Wouldn't it be good to have soup with the S1 there too, as you said?

It's primarily a throughput thing; you need so many seats at a table to push through more people in a window, and the size of a single space for 200+ people doesn't work. The size of the cafeteria would be too big for the watertight divisions with all the stuff we jam into a warship.

On top of the smoke area though, the gyms, workout areas are good for that as well, and on a sunny day lots of people take their coffee break on the uppers. Departmentally lot of common spaces, so the MCR etc are all great places to mingle. On the weirdroom side it's a spot to catch up with officers in other departments as well, so you do a lot of coordination over food.

 

[Underway]

But why would they be good for the AOPS but not CSC? Wouldn't it be good to have soup with the S1 there too, as you said?

Messes are separate on the AOPS as well. But unlike other ships, you don't eat your meals in the AOPS messes. They are basically lounges with an entertainment system, bar, toaster, and snacks. As @Navy_Pete stated the throughput wouldn't work as the number of people is too high for a larger ship cafeteria.

 

[Stoker]

Messes are separate on the AOPS as well. But unlike other ships, you don't eat your meals in the AOPS messes. They are basically lounges with a bar, toaster, and snacks. As @Navy_Pete stated the throughput wouldn't work as the number of people is too high.

I believe the intent was to make them like CCG Icebreakers who has the combined cafeteria and separate lounges.

 

[calculus]

Nice little video chronicling some of the highlights of HMCS Harry DeWolf's circumnavigation of NA.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Nice little video from the home office. How many people will see it?

But, considering it is the first such circumnavigation of North America in quite a while by a canadian governement vessel, why was no ENG team invited with "unpecedented access" (especialy considering nothing really classified was going on) so I would now be watching a six part series of one hour episodes on the CBC or some other Canadian network?

Other countries celebrate their naval achievements, why can't we?

 

[Spencer100]

Nice little video from the home office. How many people will see it?

But, considering it is the first such circumnavigation of North America in quite a while by a canadian governement vessel, why was no ENG team invited with "unpecedented access" (especialy considering nothing really classified was going on) so I would now be watching a six part series of one hour episodes on the CBC or some other Canadian network?

Other countries celebrate their naval achievements, why can't we?

Being on the outside but watching the CAF PR machine. It leaves a lot to be desired. Second the CBC which should do stuff like this, how do I say their have other agenda items they would like to focus on.

But if they still were doing mighty ships it would be perfect.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Nice little video from the home office. How many people will see it?

But, considering it is the first such circumnavigation of North America in quite a while by a canadian governement vessel, why was no ENG team invited with "unpecedented access" (especialy considering nothing really classified was going on) so I would now be watching a six part series of one hour episodes on the CBC or some other Canadian network?

Other countries celebrate their naval achievements, why can't we?

Because quite frankly NDHQ never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Because if what.passes for Public Affairs actually got their act together and starting reacing out to every news agency and production company in the country, with this sort of material.
You might have people knocking down the doors to recruiting centres and God forbid that
should happen.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Addendum to the above.
It was just that ,that was one of the most beautiful shorts I've seen in a.while.
They really missed a golden opportunity here.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It's almost heartbreaking to see such opportunities slip by

 

[Weinie]

Because quite frankly NDHQ never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Because if what.passes for Public Affairs actually got their act together and starting reacing out to every news agency and production company in the country, with this sort of material.
You might have people knocking down the doors to recruiting centres and God forbid that
should happen.

Your bias, and interest in this type of coverage is showing in your frustration. You forget that media outlets and production companies are business ventures first and foremost. No media company with any reach would commit the considerable resources, over the period of time required, to film, do post-production, and then market this. It would be a huge loss for them. The niche audience for this is too small.

This is the main reason why PA has internal teams to document these types of Exes/Ops. We then offer it to media agencies. the pick up is meh!

BTW, war is good for recruiting. Not much else we offer motivates a large portion of the population to "knock down the doors."

 

[Spencer100]

Your bias, and interest in this type of coverage is showing in your frustration. You forget that media outlets and production companies are business ventures first and foremost. No media company with any reach would commit the considerable resources, over the period of time required, to film, do post-production, and then market this. It would be a huge loss for them. The niche audience for this is too small.

This is the main reason why PA has internal teams to document these types of Exes/Ops. We then offer it to media agencies. the pick up is meh!

BTW, war is good for recruiting. Not much else we offer motivates a large portion of the population to "knock down the doors."

Oh but is that not why we spend 1.5 billion for the CBC? To have Canadian stories told by Canadians. They don't have a profit case to make or even (becoming more evidently everyday) viewers to make a program.

 

[Weinie]

Oh but is that not why we spend 1.5 billion for the CBC? To have Canadian stories told by Canadians. They don't have a profit case to make or even (becoming more evidently everyday) viewers to make a program.

Sigh...........the CBC.