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Arctic/Offshore Patrol Ship AOPS

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Nice little video from the home office. How many people will see it?

But, considering it is the first such circumnavigation of North America in quite a while by a canadian governement vessel, why was no ENG team invited with "unpecedented access" (especialy considering nothing really classified was going on) so I would now be watching a six part series of one hour episodes on the CBC or some other Canadian network?

Other countries celebrate their naval achievements, why can't we?
There was media access. Peter Mansbridge and film crew sailed with them for a special. For a portion of the NWP sail anyways. Probably still in production.

In the second part of the cruise, there was no extra space on board. The ship was full of US CG pers doing counter-drug operations, which are also classified. No media

The north knew what they were doing, they visited every community practically. The people who really needed to see the PR got it.
 

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Your bias, and interest in this type of coverage is showing in your frustration. You forget that media outlets and production companies are business ventures first and foremost. No media company with any reach would commit the considerable resources, over the period of time required, to film, do post-production, and then market this. It would be a huge loss for them. The niche audience for this is too small.

This is the main reason why PA has internal teams to document these types of Exes/Ops. We then offer it to media agencies. the pick up is meh!

BTW, war is good for recruiting. Not much else we offer motivates a large portion of the population to "knock down the doors."
There is an audience for tow truck drivers, ice road truckers and Bering Sea fishermen. As well as the aforementioned Mighty Ships.

I think there are some possibilities there.

Probably not up to Sea Patrol though....;)
 

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There is an audience for tow truck drivers, ice road truckers and Bering Sea fishermen. As well as the aforementioned Mighty Ships.

I think there are some possibilities there.

Probably not up to Sea Patrol though....;)
Because each of these shows presage/present the possibility of calamity/carnage/drama. And who doesn't like the possibility of that. Witness Ukrainian war porn.
 

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Make it "Seal Patrol" and add some touchy- feeley stuff to the plan with some baby seals and you'll get some traction.

That can cascade into a children's cartoon TV show about baby seal rescue by the RCN, and that'll start indoctrinating them when they're young!
 

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Make it "Seal Patrol" and add some touchy- feeley stuff to the plan with some baby seals and you'll get some traction.

That can cascade into a children's cartoon TV show about baby seal rescue by the RCN, and that'll start indoctrinating them when they're young!
For a second I thought you said "Sea Patrol" and thought, where would we get impossibly beautiful people to frolic on the beaches of the high arctic from?
 

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Because each of these shows presage/present the possibility of calamity/carnage/drama. And who doesn't like the possibility of that. Witness Ukrainian war porn.
There is that.....
 

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For a second I thought you said "Sea Patrol" and thought, where would we get impossibly beautiful people to frolic on the beaches of the high arctic from?
they do have a moon pool! Bikini's around the moon pool.....water may be a tad chilly.
 

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Make it "Seal Patrol" and add some touchy- feeley stuff to the plan with some baby seals and you'll get some traction.

That can cascade into a children's cartoon TV show about baby seal rescue by the RCN, and that'll start indoctrinating them when they're young!
The Coast Guard does all the watching of baby seal clubbing.

And we had our version of "Seal Patrol". It's called Danger Bay and was all the rage when I was a kid. I watched it for Nicole, my sister watched for Johna... so dreamy...
 

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There was media access. Peter Mansbridge and film crew sailed with them for a special. For a portion of the NWP sail anyways. Probably still in production.

In the second part of the cruise, there was no extra space on board. The ship was full of US CG pers doing counter-drug operations, which are also classified. No media

The north knew what they were doing, they visited every community practically. The people who really needed to see the PR got it.
You forget the people that pay the taxes that fund these ships. The UK has learned to connect the RN with the public and not afraid of some of the nitty gritty parts of it as well, We have the CBC and the NFB for this sort of thing. If you want a properly funded military, you need to connect with the people who vote for the people who allot the money.
 

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You forget the people that pay the taxes that fund these ships. The UK has learned to connect the RN with the public and not afraid of some of the nitty gritty parts of it as well, We have the CBC and the NFB for this sort of thing. If you want a properly funded military, you need to connect with the people who vote for the people who allot the money.
The NFB used to to some great stories of the Canadian Military. The last one called "Quiet Forces" was done in 2015.
 

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The NFB used to to some great stories of the Canadian Military. The last one called "Quiet Forces" was done in 2015.

I found that interesting however I don't think it will connect with the people the way Warship: Life at Sea will.

Canada's attempt at a TV show about the CAF was low budget, hard to watch and I don't think most Canadians even know it exists
 

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^^
Well if you want a little more action, take a look at the RCAF in the Nifty 50's. Trigger Warning.....Fighter Pilots are gonna Fighter Pilot


 

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You forget the people that pay the taxes that fund these ships. The UK has learned to connect the RN with the public and not afraid of some of the nitty gritty parts of it as well, We have the CBC and the NFB for this sort of thing. If you want a properly funded military, you need to connect with the people who vote for the people who allot the money.
Not forgetting anything. But the people in the North know the ship was there, the ship was built for them. They are the prime target audience IMHO.

Do we need better PR and shows regarding navy stuff? Yes. I won't argue with that generally.
 

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Do we need better PR and shows regarding navy stuff? Yes. I won't argue with that generally.
We have tried multiple sells of multiple mousetraps through the years. But audiences vote with their remote/mouse, and the content providers monitor this and program their feeds accordingly. Given enough resources and higher sp, we could produce and distribute amazing stuff, but would then be criticized by operators and pundits as getting away from the real CAF role and wasting time/resources.

#nopleasingeverybody
 

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The Coast Guard does all the watching of baby seal clubbing.

And we had our version of "Seal Patrol". It's called Danger Bay and was all the rage when I was a kid. I watched it for Nicole, my sister watched for Johna... so dreamy...
Ocean Helman...very fond memories
 

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We have tried multiple sells of multiple mousetraps through the years. But audiences vote with their remote/mouse, and the content providers monitor this and program their feeds accordingly. Given enough resources and higher sp, we could produce and distribute amazing stuff, but would then be criticized by operators and pundits as getting away from the real CAF role and wasting time/resources.

#nopleasingeverybody

That is a possibility, however if they don't try making quality content then they will never know if it will work. Justifying not trying because previous half assed efforts failed is done by people that really don't want to suceed. That is the key to this, if the GOC wants to elevate Canadians impression of the CAF then they can do it.

The U.S. Army even devgeloped a Video game franchise to increase their reputation and according to some it worked quite well!
How well did it work? A 2008 study from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found that “30% of all Americans ages 16 to 24 had a more positive impression of the Army because of the game and, even more amazingly, the game had more impact on recruits than all other forms of Army advertising combined.”

Canada has many stories of heroism in its past, They could commision a movie about any one of them
 

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That is a possibility, however if they don't try making quality content then they will never know if it will work. Justifying not trying because previous half assed efforts failed is done by people that really don't want to suceed. That is the key to this, if the GOC wants to elevate Canadians impression of the CAF then they can do it.

The U.S. Army even devgeloped a Video game franchise to increase their reputation and according to some it worked quite well!


Canada has many stories of heroism in its past, They could commision a movie about any one of them
Agreed................but. I have lead horses to water, I have pulled their snouts into the water. I balked at running around and sucking on their ass to create an airlock so that they can drink.
 

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Into the North

This came up on one of those emails on "whats happening in ADM Mat".

Haven't watched it yet. But since we were posting videos.
 
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