Army Reserve Restructuring

[MilEME09]

So it's essentially the same as the Territorial Battalion Groups that we have now.

Yes, and no. CARBS will be larger then the TBG's. As well in practice the TBG's only ever fielded a coy regularly, the CARB is designed to deploy as a formation. The term the CDS, and the army commander are using is "they don't want a reserve army, they want an army in reserve.", the CARBS wont be as ad hoc in nature compared to the TBGs, as the end goal is the CARBs be able to deploy in support of the Manuver div over sea's if needed. Domestically by 2040 the Ares will fully take over DOMOP from the regular force, thus why the CARBs will be bigger.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Yes, and no. CARBS will be larger then the TBG's. As well in practice the TBG's only ever fielded a coy regularly, the CARB is designed to deploy as a formation. The term the CDS, and the army commander are using is "they don't want a reserve army, they want an army in reserve.", the CARBS wont be as ad hoc in nature compared to the TBGs, as the end goal is the CARBs be able to deploy in support of the Manuver div over sea's if needed. Domestically by 2040 the Ares will fully take over DOMOP from the regular force, thus why the CARBs will be bigger.

Is there talk of the personal support services that ill be required to be that Army in reserve ? I.e. job protection ?

 

[MilEME09]

Is there talk of the personal support services that ill be required to be that Army in reserve ? I.e. job protection ?

All I have heard is that DND is engaging with cabinet and partners regarding legislative changes including job protection, I have no details though.

 

[Halifax Tar]

All I have heard is that DND is engaging with cabinet and partners regarding legislative changes including job protection, I have no details though.

That's a start!

 

[boredtoon]

Is there a requirement that the proposed Res F battalions each be fitted into one building or onto a single contiguous city block somewhere?

Infrastructure for the reserves is guided by a policy called the Army Reserves Scale of Accomodation, which details how much training space/classrooms/etc a reserve establishment is entitled to. This combined with the Army Reserve Establishment and the workplace 2.0 office guidelines will determine how much space a unit gets in a new building.

 

[MilEME09]

Infrastructure for the reserves is guided by a policy called the Army Reserves Scale of Accomodation, which details how much training space/classrooms/etc a reserve establishment is entitled to. This combined with the Army Reserve Establishment and the workplace 2.0 office guidelines will determine how much space a unit gets in a new building.

However if the army reserve is going to triple in size, thats a huge factor for infrastructure because no unit can handle that right now

 

[Brad Sallows]

Infrastructure for the reserves is guided by a policy called the Army Reserves Scale of Accomodation, which details how much training space/classrooms/etc a reserve establishment is entitled to. This combined with the Army Reserve Establishment and the workplace 2.0 office guidelines will determine how much space a unit gets in a new building.

Right; the point of the (rhetorical) question is to highlight that whatever personnel and equipment a CARB is established to hold, it doesn't need to all be shoehorned into one early twentieth-century edifice on a small footprint.

 

[boredtoon]

However if the army reserve is going to triple in size, thats a huge factor for infrastructure because no unit can handle that right now

That is why ADM(IE) and DLR have initiated an Army Reserve Infrastructure review and are looking to begin constructing/purchasing new facilities as early as FY 26/27.

Right; the point of the (rhetorical) question is to highlight that whatever personnel and equipment a CARB is established to hold, it doesn't need to all be shoehorned into one early twentieth-century edifice on a small footprint.

Yes. A CARB building will be built around the entitlements set out in those documents. 10 m2 office space for the CO, 4.5m 2 work station for most employees, break rooms, kitchen space, classrooms, parade grounds, etc. It's all in those documents. I never said we had to shoehorn anything into an early 20th century building.

 

[MilEME09]

Right; the point of the (rhetorical) question is to highlight that whatever personnel and equipment a CARB is established to hold, it doesn't need to all be shoehorned into one early twentieth-century edifice on a small footprint.

Talking to my DCO, we essentially told the army for the growth they want, we need an entire armoury the size of Debney in Edmonton just for us.

 

[Remius]

Talking to my DCO, we essentially told the army for the growth they want, we need an entire armoury the size of Debney in Edmonton just for us.

I know they are working on it here as well but brigade level in the high density geographic location. We did an initial wish list and unit allocations etc. Where that goes, we’ll see but it is looking promising.

Some solutions will need work. Others are easy no brainers.

 

[Brad Sallows]

That is why ADM(IE) and DLR have initiated an Army Reserve Infrastructure review and are looking to begin constructing/purchasing new facilities as early as FY 26/27.

Yes. A CARB building will be built around the entitlements set out in those documents. 10 m2 office space for the CO, 4.5m 2 work station for most employees, break rooms, kitchen space, classrooms, parade grounds, etc. It's all in those documents. I never said we had to shoehorn anything into an early 20th century building.

You didn't. There was an earlier reference to what I take to be the Bay St building in Victoria.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Has there been any consideration to standing up some more ‘ethnic’ (for lack of a better term) themed Army Res units? Might help with recruiting from specific cultures if they see some of their military traditions reflected.

Something like the 1st Brampton Sikh regiment, or the Vancouver Chinese rifles? Obviously like our Highland or Irish regiments (which at this point aren’t ethnically very Scottish or Irish) it is open to all, but just seeing certain ethnic martial heritage reflected in the military might encourage those groups participation.

 

[RangerRay]

Has there been any consideration to standing up some more ‘ethnic’ (for lack of a better term) themed Army Res units? Might help with recruiting from specific cultures if they see some of their military traditions reflected.

Something like the 1st Brampton Sikh regiment, or the Vancouver Chinese rifles? Obviously like our Highland or Irish regiments (which at this point aren’t ethnically very Scottish or Irish) it is open to all, but just seeing certain ethnic martial heritage reflected in the military might encourage those groups participation.

I have often thought about having a Punjabi regiment in the GVRD or GTA. Not being of that ethnicity, I don’t know if it is a good idea or not.

 

[boredtoon]

Has there been any consideration to standing up some more ‘ethnic’ (for lack of a better term) themed Army Res units? Might help with recruiting from specific cultures if they see some of their military traditions reflected.

Something like the 1st Brampton Sikh regiment, or the Vancouver Chinese rifles? Obviously like our Highland or Irish regiments (which at this point aren’t ethnically very Scottish or Irish) it is open to all, but just seeing certain ethnic martial heritage reflected in the military might encourage those groups participation.

No. There are existing units in every major city. It is way more work to create an entirely new regiment than to just authorize the expansion of an existing one. In the next 5 years, we can expect to see most PRes units authorized to increase their establishments to their doctrinal orbats.

 

[daftandbarmy]

You didn't. There was an earlier reference to what I take to be the Bay St building in Victoria.

Plus at least 8 other similar old piles of brick I can think of in B.C. masquerading as modern defense facilities.

And then there’s CFB Esquimalt/ Naden.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Has there been any consideration to standing up some more ‘ethnic’ (for lack of a better term) themed Army Res units? Might help with recruiting from specific cultures if they see some of their military traditions reflected.

Something like the 1st Brampton Sikh regiment, or the Vancouver Chinese rifles? Obviously like our Highland or Irish regiments (which at this point aren’t ethnically very Scottish or Irish) it is open to all, but just seeing certain ethnic martial heritage reflected in the military might encourage those groups participation.

Because those Irish and Scottish units need some competition

 

[Kirkhill]

Has there been any consideration to standing up some more ‘ethnic’ (for lack of a better term) themed Army Res units? Might help with recruiting from specific cultures if they see some of their military traditions reflected.

Something like the 1st Brampton Sikh regiment, or the Vancouver Chinese rifles? Obviously like our Highland or Irish regiments (which at this point aren’t ethnically very Scottish or Irish) it is open to all, but just seeing certain ethnic martial heritage reflected in the military might encourage those groups participation.

Hodson's Horse of Brampton

https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/1el8ses/lancers_of_the_4th_horse_hodsons_horse_indian

 

[MilEME09]

No. There are existing units in every major city. It is way more work to create an entirely new regiment than to just authorize the expansion of an existing one. In the next 5 years, we can expect to see most PRes units authorized to increase their establishments to their doctrinal orbats.

10% increase per year until max

 

[Eaglelord17]

No. There are existing units in every major city. It is way more work to create an entirely new regiment than to just authorize the expansion of an existing one. In the next 5 years, we can expect to see most PRes units authorized to increase their establishments to their doctrinal orbats.

Yes but my point is if we wish to increase the size of the CAF it makes sense to try and attract people to join.

If part of attracting people is reflecting their cultural identity then isn’t that a easy price to pay?

Take the Sikhs for example, there is around 1 million in Canada. They have a martial tradition and it is a respected profession for them. Yet we don’t have a huge Sikh population in the CAF. Could a Sikh inspired regiment help change that?

Alternatively being told they have to join the insert ‘Highland Regiment’ if they wish to join the Reserves might turn them away. Much like how if they had a Highland regiment where I am it would attract me (as it reflects my heritage).

 

[Remius]

Yes but my point is if we wish to increase the size of the CAF it makes sense to try and attract people to join.

If part of attracting people is reflecting their cultural identity then isn’t that a easy price to pay?

Take the Sikhs for example, there is around 1 million in Canada. They have a martial tradition and it is a respected profession for them. Yet we don’t have a huge Sikh population in the CAF. Could a Sikh inspired regiment help change that?

Alternatively being told they have to join the insert ‘Highland Regiment’ if they wish to join the Reserves might turn them away. Much like how if they had a Highland regiment where I am it would attract me (as it reflects my heritage).

Sikhs get to wear their traditional cultural dress already in any unit.