C7 rifles within cadets

[M16]

How many cadets get to actually use a C7?

 

[condor888000]

I don't know, I imagine it's a low number and should stay that way. If too many cadets start shooting it increases the odds that you're gonna have an idiot that does something really stupid. Also, they're spread out over the country, if you only have x C7's modified, will you fly them around to where the cadets are going to shoot them? Or save some cash, restrict the number of rounds in the magazine, and let them fire the same, unmodified service weapon.

 

[M16]

They only load 5 rounds at a time into the magazine.

 

[condor888000]

OK, so they already restict the number of rounds. Know why? So Bloggins won't put it to auto and blast away, possibly for legal reasons as well... Now if the weapons aren't capable of shooting auto, the first reason is gone. That's what I meant. I can understand what you're saying though, and why you're saying it...

 

[Big Foot]

First of all, to the best of my knowledge, the weapons which cadets draw all come from local armouries. Those armouries, depending on the location, need to have full functional weapons for training purposes. I don't think it would do anyone any good to take weapons away from reg force and reservists just so some 13 year old kid doesn't fire off on auto. It just doesn't make sense. Leave the weapons as they are, they were designed as a weapon of war and, in my opinion, shouldn't be modified just to accomdate the cadets.

 

[chrisf]

Cadets are civillians. The legality and reasoning behind the 5 rounds in the magazine has already been explained. Re-read the thread.

 

[my72jeep]

Excuse my unknowingness, but what do you mean by repetition?

Reptetition army for semi auto

 

[my72jeep]

It would be illegal to put more than five anyway I guess.  Civilians can't have more than 5 rounds at a time in a mmagazineunless they have a restricted weapons permit.  I'm sure some idiots still try auto with 5 rounds anyway.   I agree with you bigfoot.

Permets or not no civi can use a mag with more than five rds for any semi auto rifle. bolt action rifle's are different

 

[primer]

Set aside some C7s just for cadets.

All Army Cadet Training Centers have them   :dontpanic:

 

[primer]

DND did try to purchase a new weapon for the Army Cadet shooting programme. It was called the C-10 bolt action rifle 5.56 cal. It look somewhat like the C 7.The cost was much more that the C 7

 

[Byerly]

I very much dought that. About the rifles, what do they do for you guys/girls that have fired them? do they teach you all your proper drills and such, or do they show you how to laod, ready and such only? About the auto thing, why do you think that the US M16A5 has only repitition and 3 rnd burst? On Auto, i find 2-3 rounds, and you are off target at liek 20 m. I have only fired about 100 rounds on auto, so there are way more experianced people than me. Is there some sort of rile course with cadets? like one you go do marksmanship for liek 2 weeks or whatever, would be a neat addition to that, then let the ones qualified on that to go out and shoot.

Forestedwarrior,

if 2-3 rounds of auto is throwing your aim off by 20 m then you are doing something wrong.  There is now way a busrt that small should have that adverse effect on your aim and control of the weapon.

Stu

 

[xterra rat]

Hey Cadets

Here is a good idea. Just join the army regs or reserves like I did after cadets and you'll never want to see a C7 again after sleeping with it, eating with it, cleaning it a 1,000 times, holding it outstretched with one hand during pt. It's JUST A RIFLE.

 

[1feral1]

We had some cadets out once with the F88 rifle. Single shot lock out engaged (so no fully auto), and a 1 on 1 coaching system used. No problems. That was in 1997.

I am a firm believer on keeping small arms in cadets ( for drill and shooting competitivly), it promotes responsibility and teaches on on safety, plus its competitive too.

Cadets here use the F88 for drill, along with the L1A1 SLR (Aussie version of the old FN C1A1). Both rifles are converted to DP only, so they are made permanantly inoperable at factory level. DP means DP. The only moveable parts are the sling swivels, but the look perfect.

DP: Drill Purpose

My 2 cents.


Cheers,

Wes

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

It would be illegal to put more than five anyway I guess.  Civilians can't have more than 5 rounds at a time in a magizine unless they have a restricted weapons permit.  I'm sure some idiots still try auto with 5 rounds anyway.   I agree with you bigfoot.

I have a restricted FAC and I can only put 5 rounds in my semi auto rifle......and 10 for a semi auto pistol. Having a restricted gives you no permission to have larger mags.  :

 

[1feral1]

I think the 5rds limit is strictly for control, nothing more, plus they can learn to load more mags   ;D

Either way, as long as they are allowed to shot, thats what counts.

Cheers,

Wes

 

[Spr.Earl]

The new Gun Laws prohibit Cadets from using a Assault Rifle's.
Under the new Laws only the Military and designated members of a Police Force can use Assault Rifles.

End of Subject.

 

[catalyst]

As a future CIC officer and cadet instructor, sometime during my tenure, I  would like to hold a C7 rifle. I don't have to shoot it, I just wanna see one of those things up close

 

[foerestedwarrior]

Forestedwarrior,

if 2-3 rounds of auto is throwing your aim off by 20 m then you are doing something wrong.   There is now way a busrt that small should have that adverse effect on your aim and control of the weapon.

Stu

I think you misinterpreted what i ment, I was 20m from the target shooting auto, not having it walk up 20m when i shot.

 

[Byerly]

Seen.  My mistake.

Stu

 

[Spartan]

I'm just curious but how many units and their AFU go down to the SAT range?
Workaround to this problem of law conflicts?