Cadpat Consensus: Was It wroth it?
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Michael Dorosh
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The question about value might be more meaningful if you actually told us how much money was spent on them. As it is, the question means nothing. Can you compare the cost of a CADPAT uniform to that of an OD one? The only benchmark I have is the Canadian Peacekeeper catalogue, where stuff like shaving kits, FMP covers, etc are about 20 percent more to produce in CADPAT than in OD, but I suspect that has little to do with the cost of the cloth.
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Most indefinitely it was worth it. Regardless of the new image the public now has with the uniform, which in my opinion represents as well as suits the Canadian Forces well.
It‘s "real world" use, is of more interest, meaning its capabilities are great. I once saw a picture of just tree‘s and bush‘s, I thought at first it was a pic posted by mistake. When well in reality, if I we‘re thinking that in the field(As opposing force) of where and when that picture was taken, I would no uncertainty be taken down. A section of soldiers were clearly blended in with the surrounding. I had to stare closely at the bush to notice a face and/or the outline of a body.
If those we‘re OD.. I would have noticed them much quicker.
So I really think the CF did good in getting these uniforms.
It‘s "real world" use, is of more interest, meaning its capabilities are great. I once saw a picture of just tree‘s and bush‘s, I thought at first it was a pic posted by mistake. When well in reality, if I we‘re thinking that in the field(As opposing force) of where and when that picture was taken, I would no uncertainty be taken down. A section of soldiers were clearly blended in with the surrounding. I had to stare closely at the bush to notice a face and/or the outline of a body.
If those we‘re OD.. I would have noticed them much quicker.
So I really think the CF did good in getting these uniforms.
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Look at it this way meniOn, if you‘re ever fighting in a completely monocolour forest with only olive colored animals around, and you are wearing the old ones, you will be the only left alive.
Just wait till WW3 breaks out in the monocolour forest, then we‘ll all be jumping back into the old combats.
Well that‘s what I used to say before I got issued the Cadpat to make myself feel better.
Just call them your "Throwbacks"
Just wait till WW3 breaks out in the monocolour forest, then we‘ll all be jumping back into the old combats.
Well that‘s what I used to say before I got issued the Cadpat to make myself feel better.
Just call them your "Throwbacks"
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Dano; no offense, but as an air cadet, when would you ever have worn Cadpat? Seeing some guys in a picture once hardly allows you the basis of experience to make sweeping statements about its usefulness. Also, if you would have seen those same soldiers in green Cadpat in a different environment, you would have picked them out even faster than soldiers in the ODs.
Finally, you stated first "most indefinitely..." I‘m not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic, as the word ‘indefinite‘ means, literally ‘not defined‘. Were you trying to be cynical about it, or was it just a grammatical mistake?
Finally, you stated first "most indefinitely..." I‘m not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic, as the word ‘indefinite‘ means, literally ‘not defined‘. Were you trying to be cynical about it, or was it just a grammatical mistake?
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Combat_medic; no offense taken, I enjoy everyone’s comments 
But besides that, I (now that you mention it) have worn CADPAT, but not in the field, or for that matter a long period of time..
On the contrary, I have seen many pictures or "footage" as you will, of CADPAT in its state of intentional and unintentional form. By which I mean is deliberately using it as a mean of evasion/camouflage. That picture I was talking about was most significant one I have seen, due to the surprise that I was fooled in believing no person(s) are there made me remember it.
Surly you do not believe, seeing pictures is un-analytical and non-factual enough to prove or at least convince us of a true nature.
I agree, CADPAT does have it‘s deficiencies as well with every nation‘s military combats have.
Yes, grammicly it is an error.
But besides that, I (now that you mention it) have worn CADPAT, but not in the field, or for that matter a long period of time..
On the contrary, I have seen many pictures or "footage" as you will, of CADPAT in its state of intentional and unintentional form. By which I mean is deliberately using it as a mean of evasion/camouflage. That picture I was talking about was most significant one I have seen, due to the surprise that I was fooled in believing no person(s) are there made me remember it.
Surly you do not believe, seeing pictures is un-analytical and non-factual enough to prove or at least convince us of a true nature.
I agree, CADPAT does have it‘s deficiencies as well with every nation‘s military combats have.
Yes, grammicly it is an error.
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Bad day Combat Medic?
One problem with CaDPat is that when it wears out, and it does rather quickly, it loses alot of it properties. Once it wears out then there are limited replacement stocks. Do the reserves (ones not on tour) have the CaDPat?
One problem with CaDPat is that when it wears out, and it does rather quickly, it loses alot of it properties. Once it wears out then there are limited replacement stocks. Do the reserves (ones not on tour) have the CaDPat?
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Not yet....waiting waiting waiting for them to get my size (supposedly)
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Most of 31 CBG in Southern Ontario has CADPAT.
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Im not sure how much the Cadpat project cost, but there was an article in the Toronto Sun a few weeks ago about CF looking into urban camouflage, and it said it will take about 7 million to outfit the army with urban. I don‘t think that includes the cost of research into different patterns etc. So the cadpat could cost approx. 12-15 million??? (educated guess)
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That‘s not including the cost of development, trials, as well as re-issuing every single piece of kit in Cadpat. Uniforms alone aren‘t a HUGE expense, but when you factor in webbing, rucks, boots, cam netting, bivvy bags etc etc etc., the costs really start to mount up!
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Im my opinion, They are definatley worth it. its an improved design on all aspects of the kit. as a trucker the new LBV‘s will be much better then the old webbing since the buttpack made it hard as **** to drive. especially an MLVW.
Ive found in the feild they work alot better then the old ones, and especially at night. the only stupid part is how we have CADPAT uniforms but all the Cold weather kit is OD... go figure...
also, yes everyone in 31 CBG has the Cadpat. the only people who dont have it are the Noobs, since they have to wait a bit, and such.
hey L/MCpl_Argyll_ Kurrgan you know Phil Skinner?
Ive found in the feild they work alot better then the old ones, and especially at night. the only stupid part is how we have CADPAT uniforms but all the Cold weather kit is OD... go figure...
also, yes everyone in 31 CBG has the Cadpat. the only people who dont have it are the Noobs, since they have to wait a bit, and such.
hey L/MCpl_Argyll_ Kurrgan you know Phil Skinner?
