Looking again at this picture the phase that Maggie Thatcher (I miss her....) used to describe John Major pops into my head - 'He's such a gray man'Our Blessed Leader is the only one truly 'manspreading' - someone in the PMO should explain to him that this is anti-Feminist and will turn off female votes between the ages of 18-54.
This brings to mind @Kirkhill's comparison (GDP adjusted) of what Canada gets for our money vs. the Danish.Believe me, I have absolutely no love for Trudeau and his defence policy, but there is plenty of blame to go around on this fiasco we find ourselves in now.
Since 1990 (the end of the Cold War and the last time our Defence spending was at 2% of GDP) we've had both Liberal and Conservative governments (12 years under the Conservatives and 20 years under the Liberals) which have all had a part to play in contributing to this mess (and the 1982-1990 ~2% spending was preceded by sub 2% spending from 1973 to 1981).
A big chunk of the blame should also go to the Military leadership over all this time. To be honest it's shameful that with an Army the size of ours and an annual Defence budget of the $22 Billion range annually that we're scrambling to be able to piece together the ability to lead a Brigade-sized deployment. And that's just to LEAD a Brigade...not deploy an entire Brigade on our own. And what would our situation be if we actually had to fight that Brigade?
I would have loved to witnessed the conversation between the Minister and CDS when NATO called on us to meet our commitment.
Minister: "So General, NATO needs us to step up and take on leadership of a Brigade in Latvia. We have three Reg Force Brigades and nine Reserve Brigades in the Army. How do you propose we make this happen?"
CDS: "Ummm...."
Believe me, I have absolutely no love for Trudeau and his defence policy, but there is plenty of blame to go around on this fiasco we find ourselves in now.
Since 1990 (the end of the Cold War and the last time our Defence spending was at 2% of GDP) we've had both Liberal and Conservative governments (12 years under the Conservatives and 20 years under the Liberals) which have all had a part to play in contributing to this mess (and the 1982-1990 ~2% spending was preceded by sub 2% spending from 1973 to 1981).
A big chunk of the blame should also go to the Military leadership over all this time. To be honest it's shameful that with an Army the size of ours and an annual Defence budget of the $22 Billion range annually that we're scrambling to be able to piece together the ability to lead a Brigade-sized deployment. And that's just to LEAD a Brigade...not deploy an entire Brigade on our own. And what would our situation be if we actually had to fight that Brigade?
I would have loved to witnessed the conversation between the Minister and CDS when NATO called on us to meet our commitment.
Minister: "So General, NATO needs us to step up and take on leadership of a Brigade in Latvia. We have three Reg Force Brigades and nine Reserve Brigades in the Army. How do you propose we make this happen?"
CDS: "Ummm...."
"Ohhhhh you meant a 'Brigade'. We don't do that here. It's a Brigade Group; less people, less capabilities, but punches above its weight. Sorry, cost saving measure... have you seen the price of a carbon neutral, feminist, new world,social utopia nowadays?"Of course we all know that the coming 'cop out' will be weasel wording changes around 'capabilities', as opposed to hard troop numbers as in 'a full Brigade'.
Technically a Bde Group is a Bde+Enablers - the book value for a CMBG is pretty significant (IF it actually had all the stuff it is supposed too)."Ohhhhh you meant a 'Brigade'. We don't do that here. It's a Brigade Group; less people, less capabilities, but punches above its weight. Sorry, cost saving measure... have you seen the price of a carbon neutral, feminist, new world,social utopia nowadays?"
Yes and no. I didn't give it any thought because Canada doesn't have any. Latvia does have three air defence batteries with RBS 70 and I'm assuming under the current scheme of things the eFP operates under their umbrella. It's anyone's guess as to what the future will bring - short term, we have nothing to offer.Did I miss an anti-air detachment in the above?
I don’t blame him for the state of the military at all. Has he improved it? No, but I don’t know that he’s made it all that much worse either. I was more pointing to his inability to say “we are announcing today that Canada will commit an additional x and y to the Baltics and will immediately bring the acquisition of Z.”Believe me, I have absolutely no love for Trudeau and his defence policy, but there is plenty of blame to go around on this fiasco we find ourselves in now.
Since 1990 (the end of the Cold War and the last time our Defence spending was at 2% of GDP) we've had both Liberal and Conservative governments (12 years under the Conservatives and 20 years under the Liberals) which have all had a part to play in contributing to this mess (and the 1982-1990 ~2% spending was preceded by sub 2% spending from 1973 to 1981).
A big chunk of the blame should also go to the Military leadership over all this time. To be honest it's shameful that with an Army the size of ours and an annual Defence budget of the $22 Billion range annually that we're scrambling to be able to piece together the ability to lead a Brigade-sized deployment. And that's just to LEAD a Brigade...not deploy an entire Brigade on our own. And what would our situation be if we actually had to fight that Brigade?
I would have loved to witnessed the conversation between the Minister and CDS when NATO called on us to meet our commitment.
Minister: "So General, NATO needs us to step up and take on leadership of a Brigade in Latvia. We have three Reg Force Brigades and nine Reserve Brigades in the Army. How do you propose we make this happen?"
CDS: "Ummm...."
I'd love to see a GO/FO call the country to task on this.
He appointed Sajjan which was pretty much a guarantee that the goal posts wouldn't move for a half of a decade.I don’t blame him for the state of the military at all. Has he improved it? No, but I don’t know that he’s made it all that much worse either. I was more pointing to his inability to say “we are announcing today that Canada will commit an additional x and y to the Baltics and will immediately bring the acquisition of Z.”
Kirkills comparisons are indeed pretty damming, and the fact that we haven’t rationalized our force structure in 30 years is insane to me.
Oh! Sorry! You were serious. They won't because then they'd have to explain just what DND has been doing with all the money Canadians give it. - Nice little headquarters they have there in Ottawa.
He appointed Sajjan which was pretty much a guarantee that the goal posts wouldn't move for a half of a decade.
FTFYNo you won't. 13 new states. 26 new Democratic Senators
And the DRMIS price of an LSVW with full EIS is pretty significant, also. Doesn't mean it has held its value after 30 years of neglect...Technically a Bde Group is a Bde+Enablers - the book value for a CMBG is pretty significant (IF it actually had all the stuff it is supposed too).
F-35's that don't have the range to be combat effective in the northProtectorates don’t get to vote or representation…
Everyone is supposed to pony up both more RRF and troops forward deployed.
For Canada that should br 1 Forward deployed CMBG and 2 for RRF.
Everyone paying Canadian taxes should be wondering WTF the CAF does with its money if it can’t do that easily.
And Engineers with bridgingThere are other parts of a brigade that are some of the hardest to force generate — the signals squadron, the intelligence company, and the Role 2 capable Field Ambulance.
There are ten reserve brigades, and we have had a fourth regular (combat support) brigade for a couple of years now.Minister: "So General, NATO needs us to step up and take on leadership of a Brigade in Latvia. We have three Reg Force Brigades and nine Reserve Brigades in the Army. How do you propose we make this happen?"
CDS: "Ummm...."
I would have loved to witnessed the conversation between the Minister and CDS when NATO called on us to meet our commitment.
Minister: "So General, NATO needs us to step up and take on leadership of a Brigade in Latvia. We have three Reg Force Brigades and nine Reserve Brigades in the Army. How do you propose we make this happen?"
CDS: "Ummm...."
Flying out of where? Inuvik, Resolute do not have enough fuel to support a tanker dragging a 6-pack. Iqaluit may for a while but Yellowknife and Whitehorse might but they are a fair ways away from where needed. Not to mention the need to regain control of and update/repair the FOL's