CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[OldSolduer]

Just because we have a incompetent government doesn’t mean the provinces get to step outside their lane.

This has been happening more and more recently, someone needs to strongly indicate what responsibilities both sides have and to follow them. It is the beauty of our system, clearly defined roles that unfortunately we choose to ignore for political purposes.

Beggin yer pardon but just where is the PM in all this? No doubt "reflecting" on how we Canadians fucked him over. Which is what he did to us..

 

[Brad Sallows]

Just because we have a incompetent government doesn’t mean the provinces get to step outside their lane.

"We have to endure whatever dysfunction the two federal governing parties have created and sustained in their attempts to maintain political power" is an absurd proposal.

Now some are talking about COVID-scale financial supports. People f*cking with the present and future economy so clumsily deserve no respect for their authority whatsoever.

 

[Remius]

Beggin yer pardon but just where is the PM in all this? No doubt "reflecting" on how we Canadians fucked him over. Which is what he did to us..

He was quite litterally in a meeting with the Premiers and appearing in a joint press conference this afternoon.

 

[Kirkhill]

PS

I noted the PM referenced that the Autopact, which the PM acknowledges benefits Ontario, is targeted by Trump.

As I have noted in the past the Autopact was bought with the DEW Line and BOMARC missiles.
The Canada US Trade Agreement was bought with the North Warning Line

Transactions.

 

[McG]

She represented her people as a good Premier should.

She is putting her separatist aspirations above “her people” and she is pandering to a PPC base.

 

[suffolkowner]

cutting off oil is stupid it provides no benefit to Canada just let the tariff work do its own destructive work the same with Quebec hydro. Unless of course Trumps bluffing and he doesnt tariff those things

 

[Halifax Tar]

She is putting her separatist aspirations above “her people” and she is pandering to a PPC base.

If you say so.

 

[Kirkhill]

@Remius

Butthurt wexiters?

....

Cheeribye.

 

[McG]

If the priority were protecting the province’s interests and not leveraging a new wedge for separatism, she would not have dialed it in from Panama.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

 

[Kirkhill]

If the priority were protecting the province’s interests and not leveraging a new wedge for separatism, she would not have dialed it in from Panama.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

Panama hunh? Interesting choice of vacation spot currently. All things considered.

 

[Kirkhill]

Plan B?

Braid: Smith has plan to stop feds from looting Alberta to pay for tariff crisis

Premier Danielle Smith may create agency to buy sell oil, in order to avoid Liberal export tax. Offshoot of MAGA Donald Trump tariff threat.

calgaryherald.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

If the priority were protecting the province’s interests and not leveraging a new wedge for separatism, she would not have dialed it in from Panama.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

Smith posted on social media saying she could not go along with the Canadian plan to take on Trump because federal government officials "continue to publicly and privately float the idea of cutting off energy supply to the U.S. and imposing export tariffs on Alberta energy and other products to the United States."

"Until these threats cease, Alberta will not be able to fully support the federal government's plan in dealing with the threatened tariffs," she said.

Seems like a pretty straightforward request.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Panama hunh? Interesting choice of vacation spot currently. All things considered.

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That really is a sus place to go for a vacay right now. Ill give it that.

Plan B?

Braid: Smith has plan to stop feds from looting Alberta to pay for tariff crisis

Premier Danielle Smith may create agency to buy sell oil, in order to avoid Liberal export tax. Offshoot of MAGA Donald Trump tariff threat.

calgaryherald.com

Albertans have a reason to be mindful of the Feds.

 

[McG]

Smith posted on social media saying she could not go along with the Canadian plan to take on Trump because federal government officials "continue to publicly and privately float the idea of cutting off energy supply to the U.S. and imposing export tariffs on Alberta energy and other products to the United States."

"Until these threats cease, Alberta will not be able to fully support the federal government's plan in dealing with the threatened tariffs," she said.

Seems like a pretty straightforward request.

If I were a premiere with closet aspirations of becoming president or governor of my province, dialling-in the meeting and posting bogeyman stories to excite the partisan base seems like the lowest effort thing to do. Just skip right past acknowledging the threats of tarifs & annexation by the Trump to declare the real bad guy is Ottawa. Then maybe further excite the separatists & Canadian MAGA by ensuring my media release includes showing greater prominence of the US flag over Canadian.

 

[Kirkhill]

This is the first time Washington has threatened to shut down the Alberta economy.

It isn't Ottawa's first time.

 

[suffolkowner]

Just read an article that stated that Trumps tariffs would add as much as forty cents to gallon of gas and possible as much as seventy cents. That would peeve off a lot of Americans.

it would make WCS the most expensive oil in the world. Are refineries going to eat that or look for alternatives. I think there will be lots looking to get an exemption for oil

 

[Halifax Tar]

If I were a premiere with closet aspirations of becoming president or governor of my province, dialling-in the meeting and posting bogeyman stories to excite the partisan base seems like the lowest effort thing to do. Just skip right past acknowledging the threats of tarifs & annexation by the Trump to declare the real bad guy is Ottawa. Then maybe further excite the separatists & Canadian MAGA by ensuring my media release includes showing greater prominence of the US flag over Canadian.
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She doesn't have the public support for succession. That may change if Ottawa sacrifices Alberta's economy, but it's not currently the case.

 

[dimsum]

Just because we have a incompetent government doesn’t mean the provinces get to step outside their lane.

This has been happening more and more recently, someone needs to strongly indicate what responsibilities both sides have and to follow them. It is the beauty of our system, clearly defined roles that unfortunately we choose to ignore for political purposes.

Federal govt being lambasted for not building enough housing (a provincial or municipal responsibility) enters the chat

 

[Halifax Tar]

Federal govt being lambasted for not building enough housing (a provincial or municipal responsibility) enters the chat

Part of that issue is our federal parties campaign on areas that are outside their lane.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I thought this was a good discussion