Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[Quirky]

Yes because people wanted that for years, CPC pushed it and the liberals ignored it until the last election when threatened with defeat.

Carney didn't cancel carbon tax - they reduced it to zero and could just as easily put it up tomorrow.

About that carbon tax…just got a new name.

Tories battling back against Carney Liberals' 'Carbon Tax 2.0'

Canada's Clean Fuel Regulations will increase gas prices equivalent to what was saved by eliminating the carbon tax, Poilievre alleges

torontosun.com

 

[rmc_wannabe]

About that carbon tax…just got a new name.

Tories battling back against Carney Liberals' 'Carbon Tax 2.0'

Canada's Clean Fuel Regulations will increase gas prices equivalent to what was saved by eliminating the carbon tax, Poilievre alleges

torontosun.com

So.....

The clean fuel regulations;

• that have existed since 1999 as part of the Canadian Environmental Protection Act,
• are designed to gradually increase marginally until 2035
• that primarily affects fuel retailers like Imperial Oil et al (who lobbied hard against this) from being able to use cheaper but dirtier fuel sources
• that was last revised in Sept 2022 with little fanfare or opposition from the CPC

somehow equates to the new Liberal government creating a new Carbon Tax on Canadian consumers....

Something tells me the CPC has a surplus of "Axe the Tax" merch they need to liquidate.

 

[IKnowNothing]

So.....

The clean fuel regulations;

• that have existed since 1999 as part of the Canadian Environmental Protection Act,
• are designed to gradually increase marginally until 2035
• that primarily affects fuel retailers like Imperial Oil et al (who lobbied hard against this) from being able to use cheaper but dirtier fuel sources
• that was last revised in Sept 2022 with little fanfare or opposition from the CPC

somehow equates to the new Liberal government creating a new Carbon Tax on Canadian consumers....

Something tells me the CPC has a surplus of "Axe the Tax" merch they need to liquidate.

Beat me to it.
Rage donators need some rage fuel- critical thinking need not apply.

See my post from the LPC thread- if Carney keeps being competent the wall spaghetti is going to get more and more desparate- getting this sad this early is not a good look.

 

[Quirky]

somehow equates to the new Liberal government creating a new Carbon Tax on Canadian consumers....

That’s exactly what it is. Keep voting LPC everyone Canada is in great shape! Elbows up!

 

[rmc_wannabe]

That’s exactly what it is. Keep voting LPC everyone Canada is in great shape! Elbows up!

A solid rebuttal to the points I brought forward.

 

[KevinB]

Strangely I thought this was the Defense Budget and Increase thread - not the CPC versus Liberal thread.

 

[MilEME09]

By all means remove ethanol and allow cheaper fuel grades. Let me know how that goes when your cars maintenance bill spikes.

 

[CountDC]

False, this was passed into law once the house returned to strike the consumer carbon tax from the books completely. The OIC was a temp measure

The house returned?? Must have been that 2 weeks I went on vacation and ignored the world. Seemed like the election ran into summer break.

 

[MilEME09]

The house returned?? Must have been that 2 weeks I went on vacation and ignored the world. Seemed like the election ran into summer break.

indeed as Bill C4 passed the house

 

[Brad Sallows]

The destination province is working diligently and smartly with the Ingenious players.

Don't give them too much credit until they show they can cut crafty deals.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Don't give them too much credit until they show they can cut crafty deals.

Lots of glass half empty folks here.

 

[YZT580]

By all means remove ethanol and allow cheaper fuel grades. Let me know how that goes when your cars maintenance bill spikes.

getting rid of ethanol would be wonderful. Just think of all the cropland that would go back to growing stuff you can eat and my outboard wouldn't keep gumming up.

 

[brihard]

getting rid of ethanol would be wonderful. Just think of all the cropland that would go back to growing stuff you can eat and my outboard wouldn't keep gumming up.

You’d need to discuss that with the provinces too as most (maybe all?) have their own mandatory ethanol standards independent of federal regulations.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

You’d need to discuss that with the provinces too as most (maybe all?) have their own mandatory ethanol standards independent of federal regulations.

Likely driven by impending Fed legislation at some point.

 

[Halifax Tar]

No, no, and triple no, peace keeping is dead as a concept...

Only in the first world.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Only in the first world.

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lol - massive delta between what the UN compensates/pay's these countries for peacekeeping and what these countries pay their soldiers. Its a money making scheme for them.

 

[Halifax Tar]

lol - massive delta between what the UN compensates/pay's these countries for peacekeeping and what these countries pay their soldiers. Its a money making scheme for them.

Absolutely, this is just suckling at the UN teat...

 

[Underway]

Lots of glass half empty folks here.

Happens with old people (I include myself in that label) and military folks in general. We've all been around long enough to get burned badly by hope and wishful thinking.

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Back to the topic at hand.

Rumour going around is that the submarine contract will be awarded by end of 2026, two years ahead of schedule. The RCN is pushing hard for it, and it's one of the reasons that the bidding process will only be two yards at this point. They are the only two that can remotely meet the new "speedy procurement stations".

The project office was stood up in 2021, RFI 2025, RFP early 2026, contract award late 2026. 5 years from paper proposal to contract award for a submarine project is pretty fast. That's like Netherlands speed.

 

[brihard]

Happens with old people (I include myself in that label) and military folks in general. We've all been around long enough to get burned badly by hope and wishful thinking.

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Back to the topic at hand.

Rumour going around is that the submarine contract will be awarded by end of 2026, two years ahead of schedule. The RCN is pushing hard for it, and it's one of the reasons that the bidding process will only be two yards at this point. They are the only two that can remotely meet the new "speedy procurement stations".

The project office was stood up in 2021, RFI 2025, RFP early 2026, contract award late 2026. 5 years from paper proposal to contract award for a submarine project is pretty fast. That's like Netherlands speed.

I gather the SK boats would be the faster build for us- if we went with them, how quickly could we reasonably have a first boat in the water with some operational capability?

And a related question only now occurs to me- when bringing in an entirely new class of vessel how does the training of the initial crew work?

 

[Halifax Tar]

And a related question only now occurs to me- when bringing in an entirely new class of vessel how does the training of the initial crew work?

With the Vics we were cycling crews into the UK for training for 8 months, if my recollection is correct. At the the end they would sail their new to them/us sub home.

I would assume something similar this time...

As always I stand to be corrected.