Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[McG]

I’d love to hear from those closer to the spreadsheets on that too. My intuitive guess is yes because they report to the defence minister, but happy to be corrected.

The latest report on NATO spending dropped just before the weekend: https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2025/8/pdf/250827-def-exp-2025-en.pdf

Page 16 makes clear what coast guard costs can be counted. It doesn't matter if it is or is not part of a defence budget. The only coast guard costs that can be counted toward the 3.5% GDP are expenditures "only in proportion to the forces that are trained in military tactics, are equipped as a military force, can operate under direct military authority in deployed operations, and can, realistically, be deployed outside national territory in support of a military force."

That "deployed outside national territory in support of a military force" element could be satisfied as part of a combined task force in the Caribbean or the waters of Greenland. So, Canada could check that box without putting the coast guard on operations on the far side of the Atlantic. But, I have not seen indications that the CCG will be trained in military tactics or equipped as a military force.

 

[The Bread Guy]

The latest report on NATO spending dropped just before the weekend: https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2025/8/pdf/250827-def-exp-2025-en.pdf

Page 16 makes clear what coast guard costs can be counted. It doesn't matter if it is or is not part of a defence budget. The only coast guard costs that can be counted toward the 3.5% GDP are expenditures "only in proportion to the forces that are trained in military tactics, are equipped as a military force, can operate under direct military authority in deployed operations, and can, realistically, be deployed outside national territory in support of a military force."

That "deployed outside national territory in support of a military force" element could be satisfied as part of a combined task force in the Caribbean or the waters of Greenland. So, Canada could check that box without putting the coast guard on operations on the far side of the Atlantic. But, I have not seen indications that the CCG will be trained in military tactics or equipped as a military force.

I was asking about the CSE thing, but thanks for this re: how MUCH of the Coast Guard $ contributes to Canada's NATO table stakes.

And I suspect that bit I highlighted in yellow may eventually come to pass, too, if it hasn't already.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Mic drop by Davie on the CDC.

Have a read of Noah’s page for more info.

 

[Furniture]

Mic drop by Davie on the CDC.

Have a read of Noah’s page for more info.

Est-ce qu'il y a un link?

 

[brihard]

Est-ce qu'il y a un link?

Voila: Davie shows first look at potential CDC candidate.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The latest report on NATO spending dropped just before the weekend: https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2025/8/pdf/250827-def-exp-2025-en.pdf

Page 16 makes clear what coast guard costs can be counted. It doesn't matter if it is or is not part of a defence budget. The only coast guard costs that can be counted toward the 3.5% GDP are expenditures "only in proportion to the forces that are trained in military tactics, are equipped as a military force, can operate under direct military authority in deployed operations, and can, realistically, be deployed outside national territory in support of a military force."

That "deployed outside national territory in support of a military force" element could be satisfied as part of a combined task force in the Caribbean or the waters of Greenland. So, Canada could check that box without putting the coast guard on operations on the far side of the Atlantic. But, I have not seen indications that the CCG will be trained in military tactics or equipped as a military force.

So we're screwed, right?