Canada's New Defence Minister
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Back on track, here's a well-timed documentary, both generally (about Afghanistan) and specifically (including a bit of the new Minister) ....
Another interesting factoid: he reportedly patented a gas mask/hood to wear with his beard.
Another interesting factoid: he reportedly patented a gas mask/hood to wear with his beard.
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The new Minister requested release on October 21, paperwork in process.
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A former PM (and previously MND) weighed in earlier:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AKimCampbell/status/662401490317762560
https://mobile.twitter.com/AKimCampbell/status/662402145040203777
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A former PM (and previously MND) weighed in earlier:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AKimCampbell/status/662401490317762560
https://mobile.twitter.com/AKimCampbell/status/662402145040203777
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milnews.ca said:
Wouldn't India have already sorted out this Issue?
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I hope Ms. Campbell was facetious. Civil control of the military is not a job of the MND, and it does not relate to administration of the institution, it relates to the decision to employ military force, i.e. the decision to send the Army to fight somewhere. In Canada, that control is effected by the GG in counsel, which really means the PM, usually after consulting the Privy Counsel, which really means the cabinet.
She also fails to understand that a reservist not out on class A, B or C service is a civilian anyway, one of the reason we use the NES system to dispose of no shows, instead of charging them with being AWOL.
I am willing to bet his release will be one of the fastest processed one in a long time :nod:
She also fails to understand that a reservist not out on class A, B or C service is a civilian anyway, one of the reason we use the NES system to dispose of no shows, instead of charging them with being AWOL.
I am willing to bet his release will be one of the fastest processed one in a long time :nod:
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CountDC said:
ICYMI, you can use a pen to start a LUVW...some traditions can be passed on
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Oldgateboatdriver said:
16 days, and counting ....
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milnews.ca said:
The request was submitted in October of 2015, not 2014, so it's only 16 days and counting.
Although given 39 CBG's inimical approach to administration, 381 would not be out of the ordinary...
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DOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for straightening me out - and it's not even Monday :facepalm:dapaterson said:
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This, from PCO, from the "who's doing what" memo ....
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Fingers crossed ....
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Congratulations and best of luck to Mr Sajjan on a tough job ahead. I don't wish to rain on your parade, but I think a note of caution should be struck. I get it that you were a good Reseve CO and Vancouver police constable, but MND is fundamentally different.
What counts would be having the experience of running a multi-million dollar worldwide enterprise which covers several differing types of operations on the land, sea and air (the size of each individual service would be considered a major corporation in its own right). The Forces operate with significant external oversight, legislative and legal, and is unable to generate its own budget. The business has a large workforce (90,000 f/t, 25,000 p/t) that is possibly the large single workforce in Canada; all work under differing terms and conditions and many have long term contracts. The workforce is highly specialised and difficult to recruit, train and retain; in many cases, an employee will be with the firm up to several years before a profitable return of service is generated.
Also not to be undervalued is experience in running a large government department, used to setting demanding strategic direction, reacting to events which require operational and a political deftness of touch but bearing in mind that no matter the decision someone will disagree with you. Someone who has to grasp the daily operating requirements along with a capital spend of billions of dollars over decades which, if got wrong, will damage operational capability - and our nation's security - for generations.
I suppose the question is, if the Canadian Forces were a business searching for a Chief Executive, would Mr Sajjan have 'the right stuff' to even be shortlisted for interview?
What counts would be having the experience of running a multi-million dollar worldwide enterprise which covers several differing types of operations on the land, sea and air (the size of each individual service would be considered a major corporation in its own right). The Forces operate with significant external oversight, legislative and legal, and is unable to generate its own budget. The business has a large workforce (90,000 f/t, 25,000 p/t) that is possibly the large single workforce in Canada; all work under differing terms and conditions and many have long term contracts. The workforce is highly specialised and difficult to recruit, train and retain; in many cases, an employee will be with the firm up to several years before a profitable return of service is generated.
Also not to be undervalued is experience in running a large government department, used to setting demanding strategic direction, reacting to events which require operational and a political deftness of touch but bearing in mind that no matter the decision someone will disagree with you. Someone who has to grasp the daily operating requirements along with a capital spend of billions of dollars over decades which, if got wrong, will damage operational capability - and our nation's security - for generations.
I suppose the question is, if the Canadian Forces were a business searching for a Chief Executive, would Mr Sajjan have 'the right stuff' to even be shortlisted for interview?
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Meh, that's why we have the DM, CDS etc.
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Brihard said:
Who will be very quickly advised by his DM that "You do not run the department. I do. Your job is policy. I execute."
And that is a hard lesson to accept for a CEO. Ministers are more akin to a "one-person" Board of Directors.
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Oldgateboatdriver said:
That's a very apt and admirably concise description, OGBD, and I'm sure you will not mind when I steal it. :nod:
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As I have told someone before ERC, I do not consider my posts to be covered by copyright, so go right ahead ;D.
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