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Canadian Foreign Interference (General)

Yeah, I might just start sharing other articles of interest on foreign interference into this thread as a catch-all, regardless of which friendly country it is. Niche subject.
and you wouldn't object to a nation with this kind of history of interference being granted financial access to our major potentially strategic assets? (referring to comments on privatization). Laws are only useful to help honest people stay honest and to identify when bad people do bad things
 
and you wouldn't object to a nation with this kind of history of interference being granted financial access to our major potentially strategic assets?
Are you asking me a question or trying to frame some sort of accusation? Clarify, please. I’ve made my views on all of this very clear for some years now. There’s no excuse at this point for a presumption to be ill-informed.

(referring to comments on privatization). Laws are only useful to help honest people stay honest and to identify when bad people do bad things
It’s fine to just say you’re unfamiliar with what the Investment Canada Act’s national security review provisions are about. I recommend boning up on that a bit of this is a subject you’re interested in. You could even search that statute as a quoted term in my own post history here and you’ll find a fair bit of discussion.
 
Yeah, I might just start sharing other articles of interest on foreign interference into this thread as a catch-all, regardless of which friendly country it is. Niche subject.

Like the Shadow Fleet issue Foreign Interference is a global matter and Canadians are better served knowing they are a piece of the puzzle and not the puzzle itself.

I agree with posting foreign references.

I disagree that it is a niche subject.

There are 200 nations involved, each with multiple factions.
 
Like the Shadow Fleet issue Foreign Interference is a global matter and Canadians are better served knowing they are a piece of the puzzle and not the puzzle itself.

I agree with posting foreign references.

I disagree that it is a niche subject.

There are 200 nations involved, each with multiple factions.
Niche in the sense that of the Army.ca user base, a relative handful of us take much interest. So not worth several small threads, that’s all.

And yeah, Canada’s a relatively small tent in the circus. We’re playing catch up with our impending foreign agent registry. I saw a good article out of the U.S. on charges laid under theirs not long ago, I’ll see if I can find it.
 
Are you asking me a question or trying to frame some sort of accusation? Clarify, please. I’ve made my views on all of this very clear for some years now. There’s no excuse at this point for a presumption to be ill-informed.


It’s fine to just say you’re unfamiliar with what the Investment Canada Act’s national security review provisions are about. I recommend boning up on that a bit of this is a subject you’re interested in. You could even search that statute as a quoted term in my own post history here and you’ll find a fair bit of discussion.
your comment implied that you were open to ensuring that the laws and processes would somehow keep our assets safe from outside interference, thus the statement and it was not a question except in the rhetorical sense. My position is that one is better keeping the enemy and yes I am referring to China as an enemy, outside of the walls which so far we have failed to do. My front porch had lattice facing to the ground. It didn't stop the skunks from digging under it to gain access but burying chicken wire from the lattice a foot or more under the surface did. Problem being it took traps and a lot of effort and smell to get the varmints out. Would have been a lot better if I had taken the effort in the first place. Forethought beats corrective measures every time. Sorry for the slightly corny illustration.
 
Back to Canada, some questions from Teams Orange & Blue (in order of statement releases) on some sort of deal between RCMP and CHN.
Here's the official ask to and answer from GoC:
Also attached if link doesn't work.

LATE ADD: Letter from NDP's Kwan to PS, Foreign Minister also attached.
 

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Same schools. Same politicians. Same bureaucrats. Same bank governors. Same outcomes.


Britain is short 28 BUKP for its defence investment plan.

Britain gave 28 BUKP to its enemies.

How much have we given to those same enemies?


"“economic warfare and economic security are more important than ever before – there have been threats from adversaries, state actors and non-state actors that go through the business system”.

"She added: “One of the problems is we have assumed that everybody wants the same thing as us. What we haven’t realised is, when it comes to other countries... [some] want to project their economic power in a way that undermines our economic power.

"“It is economic warfare, and we have been naive about all of this.”"
 
Not Canadian, but here's one way a foreign agent registry law/regulations can work to root out bad actors - in this case, what looks like a South African spy busted at Oak Ridge National labs in the U.S.

"Former Oak Ridge National Laboratory Employee Sentenced To Federal Prison For Acting As A Foreign Agent And Making False Statements" (US DoJ info-machine)

All over South African media ...
...but can't see too much in North American MSM at this point.
 
Not Canadian, but here's one way a foreign agent registry law/regulations can work to root out bad actors - in this case, what looks like a South African spy busted at Oak Ridge National labs in the U.S.

"Former Oak Ridge National Laboratory Employee Sentenced To Federal Prison For Acting As A Foreign Agent And Making False Statements" (US DoJ info-machine)

All over South African media ...
...but can't see too much in North American MSM at this point.
Good catch!

Here’s the DOJ release on sentencing:


I think that if the same set of facts happened in Canada it would likely make out one of the new offences under FISOIA from a couple years ago. Bolded and coloured is how I would map a path through the elements of the offence:

Engaging in surreptitious or deceptive conduct
  • 20.3 (1) Every person commits an indictable offence who, at the direction of, for the benefit of or in association with, a foreign entity, knowingly engages in surreptitious or deceptive conduct or omits, surreptitiously or with the intent to deceive, to do anything if the person’s conduct or omission is for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the State or the person is reckless as to whether their conduct or omission is likely to harm Canadian interests.

    (2) Every person who commits an offence under subsection (1) is liable to imprisonment for life.

We could criminally investigate and prosecute this without the registry.
 
Do we have a functional Foreign Registry in operation yet?
We do not. The commissioner is named but regulations are still apparently being revised after public consultation. In recent discussion here a couple of us looked at that compared to the Aussies and speculated Canada may be taking the time to nail the regulations the first time and avoid the need for revisions- but that was speculation.

The legislation that created the structure for the registry also created several new and very robust criminal offences which came into place almost immediately, and which would cover this particular set of circumstances.
 
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