Canadian modular assault rifle project, a C7 replacement?

[Halifax Tar]

Yes and no, a better ammo/weapon combo will serve all shooters better as you have reduced one area of error.
BUT
The shooter is generally always the point of failure in the chain, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But I would suggest that the training system then be striving for a better shooter over a bunch of combat applicable shooting positions.


Well I would suggest that being able to quickly incapacitate a foe is the goal regardless - and in trenches one doesn't always get much of a target and the exposure times are often very limited --


Better ammo is hard to quantify in that respect - as when one looks at newer 5.56mm projectiles, they are more accurate than the SS109/C77/M855 bullet and more terminally effective due to the construction, but the production isn't affected.

The Colt Canada C8/C7 barrel is SubMoA capable already even with the 5.56mm Carbine chamber.




The bigger thing that IMHO the CA should be looking at is, with a suppressor, does the 11.5" C8CQB offer better gun handling in confines expected on the battlefield than the 14.5" or 16" C8 barrel lengths (which I think is a pretty obvious yes).


There have been a bunch of 5.56mm ammunition improvements made recently that should be of interest to DLR folks in Canada -

I know guys who spend thousands on a rifle and scope but no time at the range and it shows.

I just came back from Nova Tactical, zeroing in my new Martini Enfield and AIA Enfield.

Sadly the Martini had to stay behind with the smithy. It's keyholing, need him to give me some options. I'm thinking about barreling it to .410.

 

[Fabius]

I relooked at the presentation more closely. It’s actually broken out into three elements.
They are looking at different precision requirements for the CMAR Sharp Shooter, CMAR Fighting Echelon and CMAR General Service.

CMAR SS is aiming at 1 MOA
CMAR FS is aiming at 2 MOA
CMAR GS is aiming at 3 MOA

 

[KevinB]

I relooked at the presentation more closely. It’s actually broken out into three elements.
They are looking at different precision requirements for the CMAR Sharp Shooter, CMAR Fighting Echelon and CMAR General Service.

CMAR SS is aiming at 1 MOA
CMAR FS is aiming at 2 MOA
CMAR GS is aiming at 3 MOA

Relatively 1.5MOA is still within a chest @ 800m (and long as windage and elevation are correctly applied) and the nut behind the bolt does their thing correctly.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I know guys who spend thousands on a rifle and scope but no time at the range and it shows.

I just came back from Nova Tactical, zeroing in my new Martini Enfield and AIA Enfield.

Sadly the Martini had to stay behind with the smithy. It's keyholing, need him to give me some options. I'm thinking about barreling it to .410.

If your going to rebarrel, look at some of the old cartridges. I have 5. One each of .577/450, one in .303 British, a 45/70 and a 45/90. All shooters. I also have a nice top of the line BSA Martini Centurion in .22LR.

I would look at just a rebarrel in .303, otherwise you're also talking modifying the extractor. A No 1 MkIII SMLE barrel will screw right on, same thread. You may have to cut the chamber deeper or put a spacer between the breech and barrel though. That is your least expensive option. Whatever option you choose, you'll need to cut the breech face of the barrel for the extractor.

 

[Halifax Tar]

If your going to rebarrel, look at some of the old cartridges. I have 5. One each of .577/450, one in .303 British, a 45/70 and a 45/90. All shooters. I also have a nice top of the line BSA Martini Centurion in .22LR.

I would look at just a rebarrel in .303, otherwise you're also talking modifying the extractor. A No 1 MkIII SMLE barrel will screw right on, same thread. You may have to cut the chamber deeper or put a spacer between the breech and barrel though. That is your least expensive option. Whatever option you choose, you'll need to cut the breech face of the barrel for the extractor.

I have an Enfield in 45/70 already. And the old .577/450 just doesn't interest me. Because of it being unobtainium.

.303Br or 410 will probably be my choice. I inherited a metric butt load of 410 ammo, and I do love me some small game.

It with the smithy now. Asked him to give me options. Will keep you posted.