CAUTION- Windbag Alert!!!!

[Marauder]

Hey Carolyn, you should be happy! FOUR MORE YEARS to make an ass of yourself in front of videocameras and tape recorders!! (Becuase God knows if your constituents sent you back after your first two gaffs, they'll be dumb enough to do it again)

 

[48Highlander]

And your source of info is such an unbiased and neutral observer of events that I must bow down to his genius:
"Andrew Coyne: Meaning (information, definition, explanation, facts)
Andrew Coyne is a Canadian journalist and columnist.
He wrote for The Globe and Mail until 1998, when he joined the fledgling National Post. He is one of the more conservative columnists in the Canadian media."

The man totaly trashes your argument, and that's the best response you can come up with?  Wether his "source of info" is biased or not is irrelevant.  You're certainly just as biased as Mr. Coyne, yet you obviously expect us to listen to your opinions.  The article quotes facts and figures, whereas you're providing nothing but generalities.  Want to explain to me why I should listen to the baseless rantings of a Kerry supporter over statistics provided by a Bush supporter?  With this line of argument, you're making yourself seem just as much of a windbag as Parish.

 

[I_am_John_Galt]

Wow, thanks for correcting me John. I feel so stupid just living in this country for six years and all and following things intently because they affect me personally.

Well, I thought that the point of the article was that the media frames information to present it's own ideological biases as fact.  Specifically, that Bush won because of gay-marriage-ban Christian homophobes ('voting to enshrine bigotry and hatred' was what you said and then implied that the US was a "theocracy").  The article demonstrates that the numbers don't bear that out.  Anecdotally, there are dozens (that I've seen, probably hundreds more) of websites from Atheists that voted for him.

And your source of info is such an unbiased and neutral observer of events that I must bow down to his genius:
"Andrew Coyne: Meaning (information, definition, explanation, facts)
Andrew Coyne is a Canadian journalist and columnist.

Well, I don't actually think that because he's been 'accused' of being a conservative that is analysis is automatically incorrect. Significantly, he uses CNN's own numbers to demonstrate how they do not support CNN's conclusions, but instead show that Bush won because he increased his vote across almost all demographic lines (if I recall, the only exception was gays with whom he didn't gain or lose any support).  I thought that was pretty clever, maybe not genius, but clever.  ;D

(P.S> Like 48th just wrote at the same time as me!)

 

[muskrat89]

Wow, thanks for correcting me John. I feel so stupid just living in this country for six years and all and following things intently because they affect me personally.

Big deal - that makes you an expert? I've been here fifteen years, and my views, and my opinion of the views of those around me are diametrically opposed to yours.. so what? Opinions are a dime a dozen - I'll think you'll have to do a little bit better than that, to sway me...

 

[I_am_John_Galt]

as much of a windbag as Parish.

Wooo, that's a bit of a low blow ...

 

[armyrules]

That Parrish lady makes me really mad :rage: I think that she should keep her opinions to herself because she makes Canadians look bad, she makes look ignorant.

 

[48Highlander]

Wooo, that's a bit of a low blow ...

Ok, well maybe that's taking it a little far   I just get really annoyed by people who dismiss statistics or opposing opinions as "biased" while expounding their own beleifs as if they were the word of god.  That's why Parish is such an embarassment, because she insists on "gracing" the public with her drivel without making the slightest bit of effort to qualify any of the statements.  Commspig doesn't seem quite as bad, but then again, who knows what would happen if we made him an MP 

 

[Cloud Cover]

Back to Parrish. Why on earth did the voters of her constituency send her back to Parliament?
The last thing we need, at a time when mad-cow and fishing and sovereignty disputes are the norm and the Americans are starting to view Canada as an unlocked back door,

None of those things are important to people who form the basis of the Liberal constituency in Canada. Cities, health care, day care, taxation, immigration and equality rights will always take precedence in the minds of most Liberals. Defence, rural concerns and issues of public morality will always be the objects of their scorn, unless it serves their purpose to take periodic interest in those issues.    

is a loose cannon who hasn't the intelligence to frame her opinions and objections in a civilized manner. This MP is dangerous.

I can think of lots of MP's like that, not just Liberals either.

 

[rifleman]

So she won't become ambassador to the U.S. Hows that dangerous?

 

[Sh0rtbUs]

well, I just saw the issue on CBC, seems as if she's gotten quite the back drat on her choice of words. Hell, even the U.S. Ambassador was chewing her out...maybe its what she needs.

 

[a_majoor]

This thought dropped on me like a bomb: she is deliberatly courting controversy in order to get a Cabinet post. This is an updated version of Sheila Copps "rat pack" performance during the Mulrouney years (and look what a "great" cabinet minister she turned out to be...).

Imagine, Bill Grahm in Defense, Carolyn Parrish in Froeign Affairs...who should be the Minister of Finance?

 

[Guardian]

This thought dropped on me like a bomb: she is deliberatly courting controversy in order to get a Cabinet post. This is an updated version of Sheila Copps "rat pack" performance during the Mulrouney years (and look what a "great" cabinet minister she turned out to be...).

Imagine, Bill Grahm in Defense, Carolyn Parrish in Froeign Affairs...who should be the Minister of Finance?

I give you.....

The Return of Alfonso Gagliano!    :crybaby:

 

[Andyboy]

"Unless people have the time, energy and inclination to do the basic research, they will tend to believe that the "news" is presenting an accurate picture of the world, and react accordingly. Parrish and her supporters don't care enough to take the time and effort, and we are seeing the results."

Beautifully said. If those of you who are "wandering around in a daze" wondering how the US could be so stupid to re-elect him would get off of your frigging high horses for a minute and consider that they might have a point of view worth examining you might get a bit of an education.

 

[dutchie]

I said this in another thread on her, but here's my 2 cents .....

As an MP, she is a lawmaker, supposedly professional, and represents the Canadian Government/Canadians in general, and her constituents specifically. Her remarks were so innappropriate, it's hard to describe. There has to be a way she can be punished/muzzled. I know she can't be fired (until the next election), but there has to be a way to fine her, suspend her, or censure her.

The PM should demand an apology. He should demand this in Parliment, not behind closed doors, and the applogy should be to these people, in this order:
1-the American people
2-The Canadian people.
3-Gearge Bush
4-PM Martin.

If she refuses, Martin should publicly renounce her statements, and not in the way he has so far ('her comments don't represent the views of the government'). It should be something along these lines: "The Gov of Canada and myself wish to apologize to the people of the US, the Canadian public and  the President of the US George Bush for the innapropriate comments made by Ms. Parrish. Her views are her own, and do not reflect the views of this Gov, or of the vast majority of Canadians.  Her comments were totally innapropriate for a member of Parliment and completely unprofessional. I sincerely applogize to all who may have been offended, and offer the regrets of the Canadian Gov. I would have liked Ms. Parish to deliver this apology, but she has declined."

That would be a start.

 

[Bograt]

Okay, if my fart analogy didn't get anyone to bite here is another.

Parrish is like a zit. A blemish that if focused upon, diminishes the appearance of the whole body. However, if one choose to ignore it, it will disappear in a couple of days and soon will be forgotten.

Consider Parrish as either a fart in an elevator, or a zit. Either way she is what she is.

 

[Blindspot]

I think I have the perfect solution:

The Conservatives run Don Cherry then make him their political hitman. Since there is no hockey (and no Ron MacLean) I'm betting you there is a lot of pent up ranting ready to blow. Cherry would be the perfect counterpunch. Parish says something, Cherry is unleashed and the janitor can sweep up what's left of her. I love Mr Cherry but his windbaggery is mythic in proportion. Maybe instead of pie, Parish should have to dodge squid.

 

[Recce41]

I like her, Not a55 kissing there. Why should she not say what most of us think and feel. I wish more MPs had it like her. Most of them would sell us off to the US, quicker than you could USA eh. We as Canadians have to remember through out our history, PMs and MPs have said what they think of the US.  OOOO  I feel my Loyalist roots coming out.
GOD, QUEEN and COUNTRY evil: :tank:

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Quote,
Why should she not say what most of us think and feel.

For someone who has been here a long time, maybe you would like to go back to the forum guidelines concerning qualifing your information.
Maybe you should put up a statistic or at least a "in my opinion" here.

I wish more MPs had it like her

What, ones who say something but then whine like little babies when they get caught on tape?   Pleeeeeease

I feel my Loyalist roots coming out.

Those "roots" seem to like the Americans a lot more than you do right now....so much for your roots I guess.

 

[HollywoodHitman]

Bush, is without a doubt an idiot. Plain and simple. But so is Kerry and at least we know what we're gonna get with Bush. Regardless of whether not politicians have made smarta** comments about the US in the past, and forget the fact that Americans slag on us all the time, the Windbag we're referring to has a big yap. Plain and simple. Talk about engage the brain before the mouth. She should be called on the carpet by the PM........If one of us said something like that on camera..........Do the math.

I have an immense dislike for politicians.  :threat:

 

[Recce41]

Monk
  Most maynot have to mean YOU. Check out the most Canadian polls!. On AOL one poll had 75% disliking Bush. So relax. Ye she whined, she shouldn't have. Ever since Canada was Canada, our leaders have been calling Americans everthing. John A called them The People of Death. Trudeau refused to greet Nixon and called him an a55hole. As for loyalist roots. I have family in Britian with serving members, they dislike Bush more than we do. Even more now, that British soldiers have moved north in Iraq. But thats your opinion. We are becoming to Americanized, we are even starting calling our Battle Groups to Task Forces. I would complain more about that MP from Quebec than her.
My 2 cents! :evil: :tank: