CFB Gagetown now called 5th Canadian Div Support Base

[Rifleman62]

I thought is was loving titled "Camp Gagtown" as in a restraint to speech or being sick.

 

[Old EO Tech]

Any other old timers here?  If my mind isn't completely addled weren't these things named Camp Shilo, Camp Petawawa, Camp Gagetown etc back in the early 60s before all they became CFBs?

:warstory:

Yes those would be the old CA designations.  When Hellyers single CF became effective as part of the amended NDA in 68, renaming the bases to CFB was the rule of the day.  I can't imagine the MND/CDS sitting their with 300 MOO/CFOO's renaming bases though so I bet there was some expedient blanket document used in that time :-/

But "Camp" didn't die everywhere, there was a provincial sign outside the base in Wainwright saying "Camp Wainwright" with an arrow pointing in the direction of the base still there when I was posted out in 04....  And if you wanted Telus to hook up your phone and internet you had to tell them you lived on Camp Wainwright :-/

Jon

 

[George Wallace]

...... I am quite certain that the "Welcome to Camp Gagetown" sign was still at the front gate when I was posted out in 09 although there were rumours that it was to come down when the "new" front gate was opened up. Alas it may now be gone.

Alas, the whole Front Gate, not just the sign, is gone.  Nothing but openness.  Very unmilitary like.

 

[PMedMoe]

Alas, the whole Front Gate, not just the sign, is gone.  Nothing but openness.  Very unmilitary like.

Yes, I was rather shocked at that when I was there in August.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Yes, I was rather shocked at that when I was there in August.

And you didn't look me up...... ;D

 

[PMedMoe]

And you didn't look me up...... ;D

En route from lunch with my daughter to Shediac.  Literally only stopped to get my leave pass stamped.  Sorry.

 

[CBH99]

Hey guys (and gals),

I'm confused about the bigger picture of this whole thing, especially in regards to the CF's efforts to eliminate excessive administration/overhang.

For quite some time now, I was always under the impression that the CF as a whole was making substantial efforts to try to reduce the number of excessive administrative/overhang/top heavy positions - therefore making the CF a more streamlined organization that would be able to save $$ from eliminating/streamlining those positions.

However, if we are going to start re-naming everything "X Div" and, for example, 1CMBG is going to be a sub-unit of X-Div - is that not going to create a great number of the types of positions we have been trying so hard to streamline?

And isn't the creation of these new hollow "umbrella" units just going to create more confusion, paperwork, admin positions, etc etc - which in effect will have the exact opposite affect of what we were trying to do, re: streamline?

I'm sorry if my post isn't as clear as it could be, just been trying to get my head wrapped around this and I can't seem to.


Cheers

 

[dapaterson]

Much of this is mere lipstick on a pig - renaming of existing formations and units.  Whether it's called Land Force Atlantic Area or 5th Canadian Division, the change is merely cosmetic.

 

[McG]

Much of this is mere lipstick on a pig - renaming of existing formations and units.  Whether it's called Land Force Atlantic Area or 5th Canadian Division, the change is merely cosmetic.

The "Div" part is a renaming, but the "support base" part reflects a reorganization and regional stovepiping of functions.