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Continental Defence Corvette

Current/Previous Surface Layers

Orca Patrol Boats - 33m, 20 kts, 5 crew
Kingston MCDVs (OSV) - 55 m, 15 kts, <47 crew
HdW AOPVs - 104m, 17 kts, 65 crew plus 22 pax.
Halifax Frigates - 134m, >30 kts, 255 crew
Iroquois Destroyers - 121m, 29 kts, 280

Future Surface Layers

USVs (Various)
Orca-ish Patrol Boats
OSVs
AOPVs
CDCs
RCDs

Needless to say I am a proponent of more, faster, Kingstons with smaller required crews but able to accomodate larger passenger loads through seacan accomodations.
Kingston Class can go to sea with 36. New Pods for the class can accommodate 8 vice 6. I am looking at repurposing the PODs for AOPV's for more training bunks.
 
I think one way that people are going to adapt to UxVs is through a combination of two streams.

1 - treating UxVs as munitions - smart munitions, capable of doing more than previous generations of munitions, but still munitions.
That, I think will work for the small stuff.

2 - adding "auto-pilots" to all craft and allow them to "stand watch" under supervision.
The more rest the supervisors get the more they will come to trust the "auto-pilots"
Eventually they will not only leave the bridge, they will leave the ship.
This would work for logistics, surveillance and comms nodes.

Fighting the ship is a whole other issue.
 
I haven’t seen any discussion on this yet. But these pics are from Seaspan’s pavilion (I didn’t take these, I believe they’re Noah’s). It’s purportedly the Seaspan pitch for the CDC program. I didn’t see much in the way of details included in the fb posting.
 

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Looks like it's using a SPY radar as its main radar. I am not sure that meets the "made in Canada" criteria that is meant to move us away from the US for that specific ship type. I would have expected a European radar, either a SMART or a Thales NS110 type radar.
 
Looks like it's using a SPY radar as its main radar. I am not sure that meets the "made in Canada" criteria that is meant to move us away from the US for that specific ship type. I would have expected a European radar, either a SMART or a Thales NS110 type radar.
And I can just about guarantee that the flight deck depicted is too large.
 
But it doesn't lead to a hangar for the helo. If they have room in the specs displacement to make it big enough to land a Cyclone in an emergency, I can't blame them for that.
Just when does Seaspan expect that they will have the runway to start building the first of these?
 
That Seaspan model was stated to be already out of date based on Seaspans new designs (CANSEC reporting... they just wanted to have a model there to show they were working on stuff I think).

Noah is reporting that CDC is upping the VLS requirement from 16. Which means likely 24 as they go in 8 packs. So its pretty much a regular guided missile frigate at this point and we can stop pretending its a corvette.
 
Looks like it's using a SPY radar as its main radar. I am not sure that meets the "made in Canada" criteria that is meant to move us away from the US for that specific ship type. I would have expected a European radar, either a SMART or a Thales NS110 type radar.
The new Sea Giraffe 4A has fixed arrays and I believe its going on the new Finish Pohjanmaa class corvette. As does the Germans with their Hendsolt TRS 4D.

Actually the Saab had a ship design for the CDC at CANSEC as well. They used the same mast design as for the Pohjanmaa class. The Saab Lightweight Integrated Mast
Its a fully composite mast design with a SG4A and SG 1X integrated into it (along with other stuff). If Canada wants to push the boundaries that's an interesting way to go.
 
That Seaspan model was stated to be already out of date based on Seaspans new designs (CANSEC reporting... they just wanted to have a model there to show they were working on stuff I think).

Noah is reporting that CDC is upping the VLS requirement from 16. Which means likely 24 as they go in 8 packs. So its pretty much a regular guided missile frigate at this point and we can stop pretending its a corvette.
Still have this nagging feeling that we’ll somehow see the Rivers reduced to 6 and be given 12-16 of these corvette/light frigates/minifaxs. Happy to be wrong.
 
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