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Divining the right role, capabilities, structure, and Regimental System for Canada's Army Reserves

Chris Pook said:
Sorry man. 

Me being obtuse again.

My sense of the situation is that in a Reserve capacity one of the first responsibilities of the command is maintenance of its assigned assets.  Therefore the Maintenance element should be properly manned as a priority - and probably with full time personnel.  Now whether they are civvies providing service "out of the line of fire" or people that are willing to do the job while being shot at and what the relative ratios are is a point that provides for hours of interesting debate here and elsewhere.

The next grouping essentially provides a flying squad for the local command element that can be despatched easily in the area to tackle short notice emergencies - and not necessarily shooting emergencies.  A deployable comms element, a significant transport capability and an ability to assist the police by conducting patrols and recconnaissance during a Highwood flood, as well as an engineering group to permit small scale mobility problems to be solved with pontoons, rope bridges and zodiacs seem to me to be a useful amalgamation capabilities that would be useful both in civil emergencies and in military situations.

The artillery and the infantry are interesting to me.

In war the infantry will sustain the brunt of the casualties and the artillery will inflict them.  In peace neither one of their skills are in particularly high demand.  Their primary advantage to the government is they provide a pool of trained, disciplined, organized manpower that can be tapped to provide local security, or riot forces, or help old ladies and their dogs off of roofs.

In war, or when fighting the government is going to be happier inflicting casualties than having them inflicted.  Equally, in war, the deployed regulars will be looking for a thickening of the gun lines.  Consequently, in war, I can see that the first units available in a reserve area that will be called to arms are likely to be the gunners.

The next units, in war, would likely be the flying squad troops for line of communications duties.

The third group of units would then be the infantry - initially assigned to base security and, along with the armoured and transport troops, assigned to convoy protection duties.  At least until acclimatized at which point they would start making up the developing gaps in the reg forces' ranks.

In peace the gunners are the least utilitarian troops when considered in their primary trade.  In war they are likely to be in greatest demand.

Maintenance troops are in demand in peace and war (may be moreso in peace).

Mobile troops, with or without weapons, can always find a role (but they don't always need a LAV or a TAPV to make a difference - often 5 tonnes, Pickups, Jeeps and vehicles like the Bv206 are all that are needed, and deployable).

The infantry,  as described by Pvt Pook, Sugar Coy, 1 Para - remain Her Majesty's Odd Job Men.  Capable of filling any gaps in any plan where manpower is required.

Cheers.

When we were "ops tasked" we had a class B Vehicle Tech working at the unit fulltime, it certainly made a difference in keeping things working. It was my opinion that brigade saw the arty units as vehicle pools as we had 7 Deuces, 6 for guns and 1 ammo truck. that's fine when the units are doing individual training, but falls apart when it's a brigade exercise. When you have a Svc Battalion located in the same area as other units, it makes sense that they would have a Class B vehicle tech, a mobile repair truck kitted out with tools and spares who can visit each units and carry out maintenance and small repairs.
 
MCG said:
Extrapolating the above 4 Div organization across the country might produce something like this:

3 Canadian Division Reserves

The British Columbia Regiment
  • A Sqn Recce, The Duke of Connaught's Own Rifles (Vancouver)
  • B Sqn Recce, The British Columbia Dragoons (Kelowna and Vernon)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Vancouver Regiment (Irish Fusiliers of Canada) (Vancouver)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada (Vancouver)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary's) (Victoria, Nanaimo, Comox)
  • D Coy Infantry, The Rocky Mountain Rangers (Kamloops, Prince George)
  • E Coy Infantry, The Royal Westminster Regiment (New Westminster, Chilliwack)
  • M Coy Mortars, RCA (Vancouver)
  • 39 S&T Coy (Richmond)
  • 39 Maint Coy (Victoria)
  • 39 Signal Coy (Victoria, Nanaimo)

The Alberta Regiment (4th Battalion, PPCLI)
  • A Sqn Recce, The South Alberta Light Horse (Medicine Hat)
  • B Sqn Recce, The Alberta Dragoons (Edmonton)
  • C Sqn Recce, The King's Own Calgary Regiment (Calgary)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Loyal Edmonton Regiment (Edmonton,)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Calgary Highlanders (Calgary)
  • M Coy Mortars, RCA (Red Deer)

The Central Canada Regiment
  • A Sqn Recce, The Fort Garry Horse (Winnipeg)
  • B Sqn Recce, The Saskatchewan Dragoons (Moose Jaw)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Royal Regina Rifles (Regina)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Royal Winnipeg Rifles (Winnipeg)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada (Winnipeg)
  • D Coy Infantry, The North Saskatchewan Regiment (Saskatoon, Prince Albert)
  • E Coy Infantry, The Lake Superior Scottish Regiment (Thunder Bay)
  • M Coy Mortars, RCA (Kenora)

The Canadian Arctic Regiment
  • A Coy Infantry, The Yellowknife Regiment (Yellowknife)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Yukon Regiment (Whitehorse)

3 Field Artillery Regiment
  • A Bty, RCA (Regina)
  • B Bty, RCA (Brandon)
  • C Bty, RCA (Lethbridge)
  • D Bty, RCA (Edmonton)
  • E Bty, RCA (Victoria)
  • F Bty, RCA (Nanaimo)

3 Field Engineer Regiment 
  • 1 Fd Sqn (Edmonton)
  • 2 Fd Sqn (Trail)
  • 3 Fd Sqn (Winnipeg)
  • 4 Fd Sqn (Saskatoon)
  • 5 Fd Sqn (Calgary)

3 Engineer Support Regiment 
  • 1 Fd Sqn (Vancouver)
  • 2 B&R Sqn (Chilliwack)
  • 3 Const Sqn (Abbotsford)

3 Signal Regiment 
  • 38 Signal Coy (Regina, Saskatoon)
  • 40 Signal Coy (Vancouver)
  • 41 Signal Company (Edmonton)
  • 42 Signal Coy (Winnipeg, Thunder Bay)

3 Maintenance Battalion
  • 41 Maint Coy (Edmonton)
  • 38 Maint Coy (Winnipeg)

3 Supply & Transport Battalion
  • 38 S&T Coy (Thunder Bay)
  • 40 S&T Coy (Edmonton)
  • 41 S&T Coy (Calgary)
  • 42 S&T Coy (Saskatoon)


4 Canadian Division Reserves

Canadian Guards
  • Ceremonial Guard
  • A Bty, Canadian Guards Artillery, RCA (Ottawa)
  • A Sqn Recce, The Governor General's Horse Guards (Toronto)
  • B Sqn Recce, 4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards (Kanata)
  • A Coy Infantry, Governor General's Foot Guards (Ottawa)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Canadian Grenadier Guards (Montreal)
  • S&T Coy (Ottawa)

Ontario Scottish and Highland Regiment
  • A Coy Infantry, The Essex Kent Scottish (Chatham)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada  (Hamilton)
  • C Coy Infantry, 48th Highlanders of Canada (Toronto)
  • D Coy Infantry, Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada (Cambridge, Kitchener)
  • E Coy Infantry, Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry Highlanders (Cornwall)
  • F Coy Infantry,The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa (Ottawa)
  • G Coy Infantry, The Lorne Scots (Brampton, Oakville, Georgetown)
  • H Coy Infantry,The Toronto Scottish Regiment (Mississauga)
  • M Coy Mortars, Lanark and Renfrew Scottish (Pembroke)
  • S&T Coy (Hamilton)

Western Ontario Regiment (4th Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment)
  • A Sqn Recce, 1st Hussars (RCAC) (London, Sarnia)
  • B Sqn Recce, The Windsor Regiment (RCAC) (Windsor)
  • A Coy Infantry, The London and Oxford Fusiliers (London)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Elgin Regiment (St Thomas)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Perth Regiment (Stratford)
  • D Coy Infantry, The Grey and Simcoe Foresters (Owen Sound, Barrie)
  • S&T Coy (London, Windsor)

5th Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment
  • A Sqn Recce, The Queen's York Rangers (RCAC) (Toronto, Aurora)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Queen's Own Rifles of Canada (Scarborough)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Royal Regiment of Canada (Toronto)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Lincoln and Welland Regiment (St. Catherine’s, Welland)
  • D Coy Infantry, The Royal Hamilton Light Infantry (Hamilton)
  • M Coy Mortars (St Catharines)
  • S&T Coy (Toronto)

6th Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment
  • A Sqn, The Ontario Regiment (RCAC) (Oshawa)
  • A Coy Infantry, Irish Regiment of Canada (Sudbury)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Princess of Wales' Own Regiment (Kingston)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment (Belleville, Cobourg, Peterborough)
  • D Coy Infantry, The Brockville Rifles (Brockville)
  • E Coy Infantry, The Algonquin Regiment (North Bay, Timmins)
  • S&T Coy (North Bay, Sault Ste Marie)

4 Field Artillery Regiment
  • A Bty, Toronto Regiment, RCA (Toronto)
  • B Bty, RCA (Brantford, Simcoe)
  • C Bty, RCA (Sault Ste. Marie)
  • D Bty, RCA (Hamilton, Guelph)

4 Field Engineer Regiment
  • 1 Fd Sqn (London, Windsor)
  • 2 Fd Sqn (Toronto)
  • 3 Fd Sqn (Ottawa, Orleans)
  • 4 Fd Sqn (Hamilton, Waterloo)

4 Signals Regiment
  • 31 Signal Company (Hamilton, London)
  • 32 Signal Company (Toronto, Borden)
  • 33 Signal Company (Ottawa, Kingston)

4 Maintenance Battalion
  • 31 Maint Coy (London, Hamilton)
  • 32 Maint Coy (Ottawa, Prescott)
  • 33 Maint Coy (Toronto)


2 Canadian Division Reserves

4e Bataillon, Royal 22e Régiment
  • A Sqn Recce, The Royal Canadian Hussars (Montreal)
  • Esc B, Régiment de Hull (RCAC) (Gatineau)
  • A Coy Infantry, Royal Montreal Regiment (Montreal)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada (Montreal)
  • Cie C infanterie, Fusiliers Mont-Royal (Montreal)
  • Cie D infanterie, Le Régiment de Châteauguay (Laval)
  • Cie E infanterie, Le Régiment de St.-Hyacinthe (St.-Hyacinthe)
  • Cie F infanterie, Le Régiment de St.-Hyacinthe (Drummondville)
  • Cie G infanterie, Le Régiment de Maisonneuve (Montreal)

5e Bataillon, Royal 22e Régiment
  • Esc A, 12e Régiment blindé du Canada (Trois-Rivières)
  • Esc B, The Sherbrooke Hussars (Sherbrooke)
  • Cie A infanterie, Voltigeurs de Québec (Québec)
  • Cie B infanterie, Les Fusiliers du St-Laurent (Rimouski)
  • Cie C infanterie, Le Régiment de la Chaudière (Lévis)
  • Cie D infanterie, Régiment du Saguenay (Saguenay)
  • Cie E infanterie, Les Fusiliers de Sherbrooke (Sherbrooke)

2e Régiment d’artillerie de campagne
  • Bty A, ARC (Montreal)
  • Bty B, ARC (Shawinigan)
  • Bty C, ARC (Lévis, Val-Bélair, Montmagny)

2e Régiment de génie de campagne
  • 1e Escadron de Génie (Montreal)
  • 2e Escadron de Génie (Québec)
  • 3e Escadron de Génie (Rouyn)

2e Régiment des transmissions
  • 35 Escadron des transmissions (Québec and Sherbrooke)
  • 34 Escadron des transmissions (Montreal)

2 Maintenance Battalion
  • 35 Maint Coy (Québec)
  • 34 Maint Coy (Montreal)

2 Supply & Transport Battalion
  • 35 S&T Coy (Québec)
  • 34 S&T Coy (St Hubert)


5 Canadian Division Reserves

The Royal New Brunswick Regiment 
  • A Sqn Recce, 8th Canadian Hussars (Moncton)
  • B Sqn Recce, The Prince Edward Island Regiment (Charlottetown)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Carleton and York Regiment (Fredericton)
  • B Coy Infantry, The North Shore Regiment (Bathurst)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Carleton and York Regiment (Grand Falls)

The Nova Scotia Regiment
  • A Sqn Recce, The Halifax Rifles (RCAC) (Halifax)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Nova Scotia Highlanders (Truro)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Cape Breton Highlanders (Sydney)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Princess Louise's Fusiliers (Halifax)
  • D Coy Infantry, The West Nova Scotia Regiment (Kentville)

The Royal Newfoundland Regiment
  • A Coy Infantry (St. John’s)
  • B Coy Infantry (Corner Brook)
  • 56 Engineer Squadron (St. John’s)
  • 37 S&T Coy (St. John’s)
  • 37 Signal Coy (St. John’s)

5 Field Artillery Regiment
  • A Bty, RCA (Halifax)
  • B Bty, RCA (Yarmouth)
  • C Bty, RCA (Saint John)

5 Field Engineer Regiment
  • 1 Engineer Squadron (Fredericton)
  • 2 Engineer Squadron (Sydney)
  • 3 Engineer Squadron (Halifax)

5 Signals Regiment
  • 1 Signal Company (Halifax, Glace Bay)
  • 2 Signal Company (Saint John, Charlottetown)

36 Service Battalion
  • 1 S&T Coy (Saint John)
  • 2 S&T Coy (Sydney)
  • 36 Maint Coy (Halifax)

the only problem with the BC Regt is the Mortar Coy (Vancouver), read : 15 Fd RCA. they need to remain a howitzer bty as Vancouver is still a Salute base.
 
Except that the 105s are self-divesting without a replacement plan, so the whole "salute base" idea will rapidly become irrelevant.

If the only justification for units of the PRes is to fulfil ceremonial tasks, then turn off the lights and send everyone home.
 
MCG, in your model, you have BC main being done by 39 SVC in Victoria. I'd suggest Vancouver as the more logical spot. They are closer to the bulk of the BC units, have the better facility, and are the only dedicated maint unit on the lower mainland. We in Victoria have fewer units to look after by your model, and are within a few KMs of CFB Esquimalt's TEME facility. Thoughts?
 
VIChris said:
MCG, in your model, you have BC main being done by 39 SVC in Victoria. I'd suggest Vancouver as the more logical spot. They are closer to the bulk of the BC units, have the better facility, and are the only dedicated maint unit on the lower mainland. We in Victoria have fewer units to look after by your model, and are within a few KMs of CFB Esquimalt's TEME facility. Thoughts?

Once upon a time we had 'Pacific Militia Area' HQ based at Jericho, in Vancouver, with a Bde 'Tac HQ' setup in Victoria to manage the units on the Island.

This worked well, I believe, which is likely why they blew it up many years ago.  ;D

What happens now is that one of the units on the Island winds up running combined exercises for all the other units. This can be a huge tax on available resources, of course, and is sub-optimal IMHO.
 
VIChris said:
MCG, in your model, you have BC maint being done by 39 SVC in Victoria. I'd suggest Vancouver as the more logical spot. They are closer to the bulk of the BC units, have the better facility, and are the only dedicated maint unit on the lower mainland. We in Victoria have fewer units to look after by your model, and are within a few KMs of CFB Esquimalt's TEME facility. Thoughts?
I see PRes units being supported by contracted garages.  The role of PRes maintenance should not be the garrison support to other PRes - the role should be in the field.  That does not require fancy repair bay facilities, and the role is not diminished by proximity to other larger CF maintenance facilities.
 
Because I only really know my piece of the pie, PEIR with 8CH in the RNBR 5 Div...not sure. PEIR and HalRif are in 36 Bde, 8CH on its own in 37 Bde. Plus, historically, with 8CH closer to 5CDSB Gagetown, and having a somewhat larger pool = more personnel, PEIR and HalRif working together creates a more equal in size asset.

Just my 0.000002 cents to this convo :)
 
blackberet17 said:
Because I only really know my piece of the pie, PEIR with 8CH in the RNBR 5 Div...not sure. PEIR and HalRif are in 36 Bde, 8CH on its own in 37 Bde. Plus, historically, with 8CH closer to 5CDSB Gagetown, and having a somewhat larger pool = more personnel, PEIR and HalRif working together creates a more equal in size asset.

Just my 0.000002 cents to this convo :)

Was that english?
 
MCG said:
Extrapolating the above 4 Div organization across the country might produce something like this:

3 Canadian Division Reserves

The British Columbia Regiment
  • A Sqn Recce, The Duke of Connaught's Own Rifles (Vancouver)
  • B Sqn Recce, The British Columbia Dragoons (Kelowna and Vernon)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Vancouver Regiment (Irish Fusiliers of Canada) (Vancouver)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada (Vancouver)
  • C Coy Infantry, The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary's) (Victoria, Nanaimo, Comox)
  • D Coy Infantry, The Rocky Mountain Rangers (Kamloops, Prince George)
  • E Coy Infantry, The Royal Westminster Regiment (New Westminster, Chilliwack)
  • M Coy Mortars, RCA (Vancouver)
  • 39 S&T Coy (Richmond)
  • 39 Maint Coy (Victoria)
  • 39 Signal Coy (Victoria, Nanaimo)

The Alberta Regiment (4th Battalion, PPCLI)
  • A Sqn Recce, The South Alberta Light Horse (Medicine Hat)
  • B Sqn Recce, The Alberta Dragoons (Edmonton)
  • C Sqn Recce, The King's Own Calgary Regiment (Calgary)
  • A Coy Infantry, The Loyal Edmonton Regiment (Edmonton,)
  • B Coy Infantry, The Calgary Highlanders (Calgary)
  • M Coy Mortars, RCA (Red Deer)

3 Field Artillery Regiment
  • A Bty, RCA (Regina)
  • B Bty, RCA (Brandon)
  • C Bty, RCA (Lethbridge)
  • D Bty, RCA (Edmonton)
  • E Bty, RCA (Victoria)
  • F Bty, RCA (Nanaimo)

3 Field Engineer Regiment 
  • 1 Fd Sqn (Edmonton)
  • 2 Fd Sqn (Trail)
  • 3 Fd Sqn (Winnipeg)
  • 4 Fd Sqn (Saskatoon)
  • 5 Fd Sqn (Calgary)

3 Signal Regiment 
  • 38 Signal Coy (Regina, Saskatoon)
  • 40 Signal Coy (Vancouver)
  • 41 Signal Company (Edmonton)
  • 42 Signal Coy (Winnipeg, Thunder Bay)

3 Maintenance Battalion
  • 41 Maint Coy (Edmonton)
  • 38 Maint Coy (Winnipeg)

3 Supply & Transport Battalion
  • 38 S&T Coy (Thunder Bay)
  • 40 S&T Coy (Edmonton)
  • 41 S&T Coy (Calgary)
  • 42 S&T Coy (Saskatoon)

It's a good plan for Alberta, not many would complain about B coy of the SALH going back to being the Alberta Dragoons. Would under your model these units set in stone, and in place or would be see small detachments to other areas. Logistically it makes little sense to have Maintenance only in Edmonton, and S&T only in Calgary, cost would go up for those units to support in the field units in the other side of the province. 41 CBG also includes the NWT, so would those units also get field support from your 3rd reserve div?
 
MCG said:
I see PRes units being supported by contracted garages.  The role of PRes maintenance should not be the garrison support to other PRes - the role should be in the field.  That does not require fancy repair bay facilities, and the role is not diminished by proximity to other larger CF maintenance facilities.

I will have to disagree with you on this, having Svc Bat REME types doing most of the maintenance and smaller repairs builds capacity, knowledge and skillsets. Allow the Svc Bat units to source generic parts locally as well as through the system, your vehicle availability goes up and problems with vehicle abuse or lack of driver care can be spotted and dealt with. You can have local contractors who will conduct the more complex stuff like transmission, axle rebuilding and bodywork. The agreement should allow the local vehicle techs to tag along on those repairs when possible to expand their knowledge base.

I got to help the gun techs in Shilo strip down a 105mm to determine what went wrong with the gun, it was very educational.
 
Colin P said:
I will have to disagree with you on this, having Svc Bat REME types doing most of the maintenance and smaller repairs builds capacity, knowledge and skillsets. Allow the Svc Bat units to source generic parts locally as well as through the system, your vehicle availability goes up and problems with vehicle abuse or lack of driver care can be spotted and dealt with. You can have local contractors who will conduct the more complex stuff like transmission, axle rebuilding and bodywork. The agreement should allow the local vehicle techs to tag along on those repairs when possible to expand their knowledge base.

I got to help the gun techs in Shilo strip down a 105mm to determine what went wrong with the gun, it was very educational.

LUVW (aka G-Wag): Not exactly easy to source locally, nor through the system. It's hard enough to get a veh sitting in Gagetown fixed, even the part could be easily (I say easily, I'm not a mechanic though) stripped from one of over two dozen other broken G-Wags sitting at various locations in said same Gagetown. (apologies if I made a veh tech's head hurt with that)
 
blackberet17 said:
LUVW (aka G-Wag): Not exactly easy to source locally, nor through the system. It's hard enough to get a veh sitting in Gagetown fixed, even the part could be easily (I say easily, I'm not a mechanic though) stripped from one of over two dozen other broken G-Wags sitting at various locations in said same Gagetown. (apologies if I made a veh tech's head hurt with that)

Don't buy G-Wags then.  Buy something that can be fixed locally - and doesn't have a Volkswagen Diesel engine.
 
There are distinct rules about robbing and cannibalization of vehicles, inncluding who can authorize it.  Land Maintenance in Batte is a good plac to start reading.
 
dapaterson said:
There are distinct rules about robbing and cannibalization of vehicles, inncluding who can authorize it.  Land Maintenance in Batte is a good plac to start reading.

It does happen though i've seen it, especially in the reserves when your not high on the priority for spare parts. Only with non-A class parts though, god help someone who tries to swap a A class part without LCMM authorization.
 
3 Field Combat Engineer Regiment 
•1ES Fd Sqn (Edmonton)
•2ES Fd Sqn (Trail) Cranbrook.  My opinion - larger recruiting base in a more centralized and accessable area and not totally reliant on a single company (Teck).
•3ES Fd Sqn (Winnipeg)
•4ES Fd Sqn (Saskatoon)
•5ES Fd Sqn (Calgary)

3 Engineer Support Regiment 
•1 Fd Sqn (Vancouver)
•2 B&R Sqn (Chilliwack)
•3 Const Sqn (Abbotsford)
This one appears to be a mix of Combat Engineers (Vancouver) with Construction Engineers.  Combats are military geared towards enabling our forces to move through areas while preventing the enemy from moving.  Construction are just that - building things to make life easy.  Need an H-hut, offices, kitchen, road on base, etc.  They are tradesmen - carpenters, plumbers, electricians, etc.  Not a good mix as their roles are vastly different although the Combats can often do the Construction work to some extent.

Sorry - B&R I can't figure out what it stands for other than Bridging and Recce or maybe Beer and Recreation.
 
CountDC said:
3 Field Combat Engineer Regiment 
Nope.  It is FER.  An FER is the close support engineer unit at the division level.  A CER is a brigade level unit.

CountDC said:
•2ES Fd Sqn (Trail) Cranbrook.  My opinion - larger recruiting base in a more centralized and accessable area and not totally reliant on a single company (Teck).
I know the new nomenclature is "ES" with establishments that reflect one Fd Tp and two (seemingly random and often unresourced) Sp Tps.  That is not what these squadrons are.  They are Fd Sqns with two Fd Tps and a backhoe/dump troop.

I will give the nod to your Cranbrook suggestion though.

CountDC said:
3 Engineer Support Regiment 

This one appears to be a mix of Combat Engineers (Vancouver) with Construction Engineers.  Combats are military geared towards enabling our forces to move through areas while preventing the enemy from moving.  Construction are just that - building things to make life easy.  Need an H-hut, offices, kitchen, road on base, etc.  They are tradesmen - carpenters, plumbers, electricians, etc.  Not a good mix as their roles are vastly different although the Combats can often do the Construction work to some extent.
These do work well together and are complementary within the general support engineer unit.  4 ESR is forging ahead on closer integration and colaberation be mixing Fd Tps and Const Tps at the sub-unit level.  In camp construction, the horizontal work and force protection works are typically combat engineer jobs.

CountDC said:
Sorry - B&R I can't figure out what it stands for other than Bridging and Recce or maybe Beer and Recreation.
Bridging and Rafting.  Western Canada's MR and MFB are permanently located in Chilliwack, so the role/task would be properly resourced.

 
 
blackberet17 said:
LUVW (aka G-Wag): Not exactly easy to source locally, nor through the system. It's hard enough to get a veh sitting in Gagetown fixed, even the part could be easily (I say easily, I'm not a mechanic though) stripped from one of over two dozen other broken G-Wags sitting at various locations in said same Gagetown. (apologies if I made a veh tech's head hurt with that)

Not so much the G-wagon, but for the LVSW/MLVW/Sterlings  90% of the mechanicals would be standard stuff. Bearings, u-joints, hoses can be made up as needed. Driveshafts can be custom ordered in a week. the parts that are hard are curved windshields, axle housing that have a custom width. There
 
MLVW is going away (where it is not already gone) and MSVS MilCOT is already contracted maintenance.  There is no role for PRes Maint to provide garrison support.
 
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