Expedited Reserve Enrollment (ERE) process [Merged]

[MilEME09]

This will be a go all most brigades


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fixed for you, as of April 1st, this is the new system

 

[RedcapCrusader]

Does this mean they're going to allow PRes NCMs administer fitness tests again or do we still have to sit around and wait for PSP to send a representative?  :

 

[MilEME09]

Does this mean they're going to allow PRes NCMs administer fitness tests again or do we still have to sit around and wait for PSP to send a representative?  :

We will be doing the fitness tests for the member on a wednesday night

 

[daftandbarmy]

Why don't we just contract out our hiring to any number of private sector businesses that find thousands of people for big employers?

One example: http://gthiringsolutions.ca/

 

[PanaEng]

Why don't we just contract out our hiring to any number of private sector businesses that find thousands of people for big employers?

One example: http://gthiringsolutions.ca/

That may just make sense; as an alternate delivery enterprise - maybe even composed, partly, of former members.

Another aspect that makes the Eng units in the reserves suffer in terms of recruiting and retention is the suffocating control that the school holds on trade level courses. For us and a few others where the courses are 10 weeks or over, in the summer, it would make sense to do some of the basic POs in-house. That way, the school just needs to concentrate on the more technical or high risk POs (where standards are critical) and at the same time we would be able to reduce the trg delta between the Reg and Res force.
This way, the young recruit can start to learn trade specific things while waiting for the other required courses and keeping him/her interested and feeling valued.

We have already devised some interleaving in the scheduling of SQ and DP1 which shortens the time required for the recruit to be employable in some capacity. Before, it would take a year and a half or more to get a recruit through BMQ, SQ and DP1 as most times the courses did not line up and the recruit had to wait a full year for the next DP1 serial.
Progress is being made but we need to go beyond this.

 

[MilEME09]

We have already devised some interleaving in the scheduling of SQ and DP1 which shortens the time required for the recruit to be employable in some capacity. Before, it would take a year and a half or more to get a recruit through BMQ, SQ and DP1 as most times the courses did not line up and the recruit had to wait a full year for the next DP1 serial.
Progress is being made but we need to go beyond this.

I was actually talking to the incoming RCEME RSM a few weeks about this very thing, that if we streamlined the course calendar we could cut a year or more from the training time for techs. Main problem being DP1 courses have been starting after DP2. flip it around and thats one less summer a tech needs.

 

[a_majoor]

A bit of a tangent, but streamlining procedures and increasing productivity can buy huge gains for the CF, and potentially for the Canadian government as a whole. Look at the potential savings the American DoD could reap through this sort of thinking:

http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/12/pentagon-could-easily-save-125-billion.html

Pentagon could easily save $125 billion over 5 years in bureaucratic waste and inefficiency

The Pentagon has buried an internal study that exposed $125 billion in administrative waste in its business operations amid fears Congress would use the findings as an excuse to slash the defense budget, according to interviews and confidential memos obtained by The Washington Post.

Pentagon leaders had requested the study to help make their enormous back-office bureaucracy more efficient and reinvest any savings in combat power. But after the project documented far more wasteful spending than expected, senior defense officials moved swiftly to kill it by discrediting and suppressing the results.

The 77 page report issued in January 2015, identified “a clear path” for the Defense Department to save $125 billion over five years. The plan would not have required layoffs of civil servants or reductions in military personnel. Instead, it would have streamlined the bureaucracy through attrition and early retirements, curtailed high-priced contractors and made better use of information technology.

US Federal Budget over Time

The federal budget has more than doubled since 1993 from $1.96 trillion to just short of $4 trillion. This is 20% faster than inflation and the budget in 1993 was not austere.

This shows that the government has been getting more bloated and wasteful over time.

This is not including complete overspending and misspending.

The Defense department buying the F35 for a total program cost of over $1 trillion when they acquire over 2000 planes.
Aircraft carriers costing $13 billion each and submarines about $5 billion each.
Spacex spending 320 times less to develop the dragon capsule compared to NASA spending on Orion. $200 billion of total spending on each of the Space Shuttle and the Space Station. The Space shuttle had 135 total launches. Heavy lift launches could have been had for at least ten times less cost.

 

[unmaxdemax]

Hello all. For your information, i was supposed to go for medical 1 and 2. When i showed up for my medical, i only did medical 1. If i understood correctly, It seems there was a change in policy and reserves don't have to go for medical 2 if they filled in their medical questionnaire.

 

[medicineman]

It's something new and (debatedly) exciting - the questionnaire will be screened at a higher level and it will be determined if a formal physical is required and if any additional information is required...this literally just started in the last 1-2 months.

MM

 

[Ayrsayle]

My understanding of the medical 2 process is that it can either be completed by Medical staff in location or at a later date when you are able / the system is able to prior to starting training.

in short, the successful screening that occurs in the questionnaire is enough to be enrolled, but you will complete the medical two prior to completing any military specific training (IE, during your basic course).  A poor result on the medical (or any other, such as the security screening, etc) will mean an immediate release from the forces.

Clear as mud?  The Primary Reserve itself is still trying to wrinkle out the details with regards to this new process - so clarity is somewhat hard to come by as none of the members responsible for the process have been working with it very long.

 

[Kerosen]

I think there is still medical 2 for people over 40

 

[medicineman]

I think there is still medical 2 for people over 40

That's why there is a screening process.

MM

 

[Kerosen]

That's why there is a screening process.

MM

What do you mean by screening process ?

thank you

 

[medicineman]

The questionnaires are screened by the Recruit Medical Office - they're looked over and if there are things that concern them, the applicant concerned either receives a request for more medical information or to attend a full, formal medical exam.

MM

 

[Kerosen]

Ok thanx

i was thinking of something else went i saw screening process that as nothing to do
with medical

I'm 46y.o. for the reserve i did my medical in april,
Ottawa got it the may 4,
the may 8 they wrote need more info (or something like that)
and never send nothing at this time !

The recruiter in Montréal was so pissoff of that and told me that happens very offen

What kind of paper work will they send me ?
What they want to check, because on the questionnaire i wrote nothing was wrong
don't take any medication, everything is find between my 2 ears, but had surgery on a finger un 1986
and a broken finger (the same lollll) in 2006.
I'm not worry i'm just asking to what will be next step.

Thank you MM

 

[medicineman]

You'll likely get a letter with a form to be filled out by your family doc regarding whatever condition(s) they're concerned about.  Doc fills it out and you fire it back.

MM

 

[unmaxdemax]

Good evening,

I filled in my medical questionnaire for reserve and completed only medical 1, as mentioned previously.

After calling my CFRC, it seems my file has been transferred to the RMO because they need further information. Does this mean I am going to receive a letter requiring more information? Or can it be that the RMO clears my file? I am 32 yo.

I don't really see why they would need more info according to the questionnaire... Only thing is I don't remember my titanus vaccination...

 

[medicineman]

If you check yes to any of the crash or emergency landing questions*, they want more information (mental health, past surgeries, sports injuries, etc).  If there is an issue with your vision or hearing screening, they'll want more information.  If you're overweight, they're going to want more information.  I think you get where I'm going...and why I thought this was a mentally challenged idea in the first place.

*Automatic or potential disqualifiers where a family/specialist doctor's form and letter are required.

MM

 

[rogsco]

If you are asking about the Enrolment Medical Screening that is part of the new (1 Apr 17) Expedited Reserve Enrolment (ERE) process it is straightforward. There are two parts:

1. A medical history questionnaire
2. A medical screening that will assess your Vision, Colour Vision, Hearing, Height, Weight and Blood Pressure. And only that. No physical exam.

If you are joining a Reserve unit that is directly supported by a Health Services Reserve Field Ambulance the Questionnaire and Screening will be done together and both of those are sent to the Recruiting Medical Office in Ottawa for review. In some locations the screening is still done in the recruiting centre. If all is good you can be enrolled.

If you are joining a Reserve unit that is not directly supported by a Health Services Reserve Field Ambulance you will complete the Questionnaire only and give it back to the unit recruiter sealed in an envelope provided. They will send it to the RMO for review. If all is good you can be enrolled BUT you will still have the medical screening (#2 above) no later than the first day of your BMQ/BMOQ course.

The RMO is able to provide a FIT / UNFIT / Need more INFO decision within about five days of receiving the form(s). If there is any need for more medical information you will be advised AND you will not be part of the ERE any longer. Your enrolment will be delayed until the needed information is received and reviewed by the RMO and a final FIT / UNFIT decision is made.

The number 1 reason for delays at the RMO is incorrectly completed forms. Make sure your questionnaire has your Service Number, your Date of Birth, the occupation you are applying for (MOSID) and make sure you sign the form with a witness. Ask your Recruiter for help if you don't know your Service Number or MOSID.

Hope that helps!

 

[Blackadder1916]

The RMO is able to provide a FIT / UNFIT / Need more INFO decision within about five days of receiving the form(s). . . .

Are applicants/enrollees given a medical category?  Specifically G and O factors.



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