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General Election: Oct 21, 2019

"All I know about resumes is what CAF applicants are told about being honest."

Pretty much every person is told to be honest at some point in life.  Doesn't seem to take with everybody.

"Yeah, but Scheer might have lied about a few months' employment as an insurance agent" is a weak comeback to PM JT's record in office.

Policy is probably a better ground on which to brag or criticize.
 
http://angusreid.org/election-2019-centre-left-scuffle/

Centre-Left Scuffle: Conservatives maintain lead as Liberals struggle to lock in vacillating progressives

October 1, 2019 – An inability so far in this 43rd election campaign for the incumbent Liberal Party to lock in left of centre voters is giving the Conservatives the widest lead they have seen since the writs were drawn September 11th.

The latest public opinion poll from the non-profit Angus Reid Institute shows the CPC seven points ahead of Justin Trudeau’s party (37% to 30%). But digging deeper beyond these topline findings reveals the Prime Minister’s biggest headache is less likely to be Andrew Scheer than Elizabeth May, Jagmeet Singh and Yves-François Blanchett.

In a week that witnessed climate strikes across the country, the three leaders representing the most significant threats to the Liberal vote have had plenty of ammunition to play to environmental purists and attack Trudeau on his environmental record.

Still, voter uncertainty, especially among identified NDP and Green offers continuing – if not frustrating – flashes of hope for the party seeking re-election. The Liberals could win back progressive voters, especially outside Quebec. But they remain stymied in attempts to turn this jelly-like base into a more solid mould.
More Key Findings:

Uncertainty in terms of vote intention on October 21 is highest among NDP and Green voters. Only one-quarter of those who intend to support each party say they are absolutely certain they will do so. This, compared to seven-in-ten (68%) CPC supporters who say their support will not waver

The NDP, which has remained stubbornly in a distant third place appears to be emerging as the top second choice on among uncommitted voters. In fact, half of uncommitted Liberals (54%) and Green supporters (53%) say the NDP is their plan B

Check of battleground provinces reveals Green Party up slightly up in British Columbia (+3), CPC up in key battleground of Ontario (+3), and Bloc Quebecois making gains in all important Quebec (+4)
 
What on earth does a yearbook instructor do?  Not a single serious lesson taught except possibly kindergarten french and even in that he had to dress-up.  I fail to see the connection between the Scottish kilt and the subject matter though.
 
stellarpanther said:
How can anyone even remotely want a guy (Scheer) with next to zero experience working in the real world to be our leader.? He has no idea what it's like in real life.

His parents had nowhere near the wealth of Trudeau. Andrew Scheer, lengthy non-political career or not, can relate much better to the average citizen.

stellarpanther said:
Trudeau had a privileged upbringing but he shouldn't be faulted because of that.

I do not fault him for that.

I fault him for his actions and behaviours.

stellarpanther said:
He at least had several jobs before going into politics and please nobody tell me being an art teacher isn't a real job.  You don't need to be a bricklayer or Truck driver to have been a hard worker.

See my previous post and contemplate how hard he "worked".

And he's never, ever had to live pay cheque to pay cheque.
 
If the conservative numbers hold up over the weekend, expect to see the LPC go Operation Overlord on demonizing Scheer, Ford and Kenney. Mark my words it should be epic.

How would a conservative minority with NDP support look to the Canadian public? The crazies on both sides sidelined? Could it happen? One wonders.
 
Retired AF Guy said:
Par for course. In this case a reporter for a right-leaning think tank was refused access  access to public rallies and refused to give a reason.

Article Link
And in this case, a reporter for a right-leaning media outlet was refused access to a public event - can't tell if he was given a reason.
It took two police forces on Monday to get the far-right Rebel Media escorted as far as possible from Andrew Scheer.

The expulsion began with an RCMP officer, part of the Conservative leader’s personal security detail, gently nudging Rebel News correspondent David Menzies away from the gaggle of media and out into a corridor as reporters awaited Scheer’s arrival.

Then, having reached the border of its jurisdiction — and with Menzies vocally holding court in the hallway, demanding his right to report — the Mounties called in the Durham Regional Police, which finished the job, banishing the rebel to a sidewalk at the outer edge of Whitby’s state-of-the-art Abilities Centre.

(...)

Asked about the ouster of Rebel during the subsequent news conference, Scheer didn’t say much. He simply repeated his pledge to not give any more interviews to the Rebel (he spoke to them once) and noted that this event was for accredited media only — indicating that the Rebel, if ever it did, no longer qualifies for such status under Conservative policy.

Conservative aides accompanying Scheer were a bit more forthcoming. While the party is unable to stop Rebel News from attending large public rallies on the campaign trail, “closed, private events” like Monday’s news announcement in Whitby are a no-go zone for the Rebel ...
 
FSTO said:
If the conservative numbers hold up over the weekend, expect to see the LPC go Operation Overlord on demonizing Scheer, Ford and Kenney.

Even without the "demonizing", Toronto remembers Ford Nation. As a matter of public safety, council had to remove their power to govern the city in a state of emergency.

Doug was booed at the Raptors parade, while the PM and mayor were cheered.

Global News

September 30, 2019

Ontario’s unpopular premier could be the deciding factor for GTA voters

BRAMPTON, Ont. — It’s hard to understate the electoral value of the Greater Toronto Area.

There are 55 seats densely packed together from Oshawa in the east, to Burlington in the west, to Newmarket in the north.

There are more seats here than in all of British Columbia, than in Alberta, or in all four Atlantic Canada provinces combined.

As a result, the Ford name is politically toxic and it threatens to tilt the playing field in the GTA towards Trudeau’s Liberals and away from Scheer and the Conservatives.

It’s no surprise, then, that Trudeau and the Liberals try at every opportunity to link Ford to Scheer. And it’s working. Don’t take my word for it: That’s what federal Conservative candidates are saying as they knock on doors in their ridings. They’re being taken to task for the sins of Ford.

Full story
https://globalnews.ca/news/5970849/analysis-ontario-unpopular-premier-doug-ford-gta-voters/






 
FSTO said:
If the conservative numbers hold up over the weekend, expect to see the LPC go Operation Overlord on demonizing Scheer, Ford and Kenney. Mark my words it should be epic.

How would a conservative minority with NDP support look to the Canadian public? The crazies on both sides sidelined? Could it happen? One wonders.

Soldiers. With guns. In the streets. Spraying crude oil on everything. Especially the whales. For the love of god, think of the whales!

Does that sound about right for the next Liberal commercial?  ;)
 
SeaKingTacco said:
Soldiers. With guns. In the streets. Spraying crude oil on everything. Especially the whales. For the love of god, think of the whales!

Does that sound about right for the next Liberal commercial?  ;)

I think it needs an image of the trifecta of evil water boarding Greta Thunberg to get the full effect.
 
She seems to have an effect on some,
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNSjrGRHVEcvcUyNGXkh7c-VSuWuhA%3A1570026383399&ei=j7OUXeT0F8jq-gTpi67wBw&q=thunberg+men&oq=thunberg+men&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0..76173...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.GufRb8E3yNA&ved=0ahUKEwik-PqG5P3kAhVItZ4KHemFC34Q4dUDCAo#spf=1570026463334

And our Federal election,

Federal leaders invoke Greta Thunberg to sell their own climate change plans
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/climate-change-federal-party-leaders-greta-thunberg-1.5295526
Canada's federal party candidates couldn't help but capitalize on the climate activist's emotional address to sell their own strategies.

 
YZT580 said:
What on earth does a yearbook instructor do?  Not a single serious lesson taught except possibly kindergarten french and even in that he had to dress-up.  I fail to see the connection between the Scottish kilt and the subject matter though.

Thats amazing. A year book instructor lol

So basically he screwed around all day, goofed off, was given the least amount of responsibility possible for a "staff member", acted more like a student and was known for playing dress up.



 
This isn't a picture of Gerald Butts Meeting with the upcoming Debate Moderator, Althia Raj from the Huffington post, is it?.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2019/09/30/photo-gerald-butts-meets-with-upcoming-debate-moderator/

If it is, why would Gerald Butts want to meet with a debate moderator? Is Butts giving her the ol' Jody Wilson-Raybould treatment?

If that's her that doesn't seem like a conflict of interest one bit.


 
I saw this a few days ago on FB. Even accounting for Mr Fernando's admitted bias, if this is true, it begs some very big questions.
 
Jarnhamar said:
This isn't a picture of Gerald Butts Meeting with the upcoming Debate Moderator, Althia Raj from the Huffington post, is it?.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2019/09/30/photo-gerald-butts-meets-with-upcoming-debate-moderator/

If it is, why would Gerald Butts want to meet with a debate moderator? Is Butts giving her the ol' Jody Wilson-Raybould treatment?

If that's her that doesn't seem like a conflict of interest one bit.

Warren Kinsella's take on it.

http://warrenkinsella.com/2019/09/debates-debate-moderators-and-those-who-seek-to-influence-them/

 
Jarnhamar said:
This isn't a picture of Gerald Butts Meeting with the upcoming Debate Moderator, Althia Raj from the Huffington post, is it?.

This really riles me right up!  How dare he!  What an ignorant SOB!  This proves the downfall of civilization.  If Mr Butts had any sense of decency or etiquette, he would immediately put down his mobile phone and converse with the individual across the table.  Oh, there's something inappropriate about the actual meeting?  Kinsella has the proper take on it.  It won't matter to most of the electorate and will only provide a ready excuse to supporters of Scheer if he tanks the debate.
 
Remius said:
Warren Kinsella's take on it.

http://warrenkinsella.com/2019/09/debates-debate-moderators-and-those-who-seek-to-influence-them/

In typical fashion, the first comment on the page:
"The source of the photo might be the most interesting part of this".

Blackadder1916 said:
  If Mr Butts had any sense of decency or etiquette, he would immediately put down his mobile phone and converse with the individual across the table. 
some bad bevahior right there.
 
You are getting an insight into the next four (forty?) years, if the grits win. Their arrogance and indifference to the common Canadian will only manifest itself further, until we have no recourse but to submit or leave.

Trudeau has centralized power to the PMO and currently does whatever he wants. Without repercussions. He demonizes and fires anyone not in total lockstep with his mantra. He is untouchable. To give him a second mandate will only bolster his ego into thinking his vision as monarch, for a borderless welfare state, is his destiny.

This election is not about politics. It is about the future of Canada as a self sustaining democracy or a socialist hell like Brazil.

May, Bernier and Singh are a wasted vote. None can form a solid government. This is a vote between dictatorship on the grit side and democracy on the tory side. Vote accordingly.

:2c:
 
So this popped up in my neighbourhood today. (Ottawa Centre)
 

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The Downfall of Canada’s Dreamy Boyfriend  - The New York Times

For Americans, Justin Trudeau’s undoing has been swift. For Canadians, it has been a long time coming.

By Melissa J. Gismondi

Ms. Gismondi is a journalist.

    Sept. 19, 2019

“He is getting so embarrassing, tbh.”

That was the text I woke up to this morning from a  friend who, like me, is a Canadian living in the United States. She was talking about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and yesterday’s Time magazine bombshell report that he once wore brownface to an “Arabian Nights” party while a teacher at a private school in Vancouver in 2001. (Since Time’s story broke, other instances of Mr. Trudeau in blackface and brownface have surfaced, including a video.)

My friend was referring to how Mr. Trudeau is seen on the world stage, but especially in the United States, a country that had a tendency to pretend that Canada didn’t exist until Mr. Trudeau came along. And her text encapsulated a distinction I’ve noticed in how Americans have been receiving this story compared with Canadians. For Americans, Mr. Trudeau’s downfall from liberal media darling — remember Rolling Stone’s 2017 cover, “Why can’t he be our president?” — to disgraced politician has been swift. For Canadians, it has been a long time coming.

It all started back in 2015 when Mr. Trudeau won a surprising majority victory over the longtime Conservative prime minister, Stephen Harper. He cozied up to President Barack Obama, and the two young, charismatic world leaders had what the press affectionately called a “bromance.”

But south of the border, excitement over Mr. Trudeau didn’t really reach its zenith until November 2016. Before that, the prime minister, with his self-described feminism and his openness to Syrian refugees, had cast himself as Canada’s answer to the charismatic and cosmopolitan liberalism of the Obama years. Now, however, for American liberals, he was no longer cute kid brother but foil: Mr. Trudeau offered the perfect juxtaposition to the crassness of Donald Trump. Every detail, from his luxurious hair to his stylish socks, seemingly served to emphasize their differences.

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It was in this spirit that Rolling Stone put Mr. Trudeau on its cover and Vogue did a sultry photo shoot with him and his wife, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau. Talk of “Canadian exceptionalism” made the rounds — the idea that while the United States was imploding, Canada was a beacon of hope in a world gone mad. It was a sentiment echoed by pundits on both sides of the border: Adam Gopnik wrote an essay in The New Yorker reminding Americans, “We could have been Canada,” while Stephen Marche, writing in the Toronto-based publication The Walrus, called Canada “the last country on Earth to believe in multiculturalism.”

On the world stage, things were bright. But back home, the love affair with Mr. Trudeau, for those who ever had one, was short-lived.

Characteristically for politicians, it started with a failed promise. In early 2017, the Trudeau government announced it wouldn’t be pursuing electoral reform, despite making it a major part of the Liberal Party platform. (The reforms were part of a broader effort to make Canada’s parliamentary system proportionately representative.)

Then, in 2018, Mr. Trudeau made one of his most shocking moves: purchasing the Trans Mountain Pipeline, which runs from Alberta to coastal British Columbia, as part of an expansion project to increase capacity and add portions of new pipeline. Coming from a prime minister who said he was committed to green energy and tackling climate change, the move angered environmentalists and some Indigenous nations who oppose the pipeline, including those who had supported Mr. Trudeau.

Mr. Trudeau’s public image as a liberal feminist committed to gender equality also took a hit with the more recent affair involving the Montreal-based engineering firm SNC-Lavalin. The details of this evolving and very Canadian political scandal are difficult to explain. But in brief, it started with allegations that Mr. Trudeau’s office tried to interfere in then-Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould’s investigation into the firm. The important part, for Mr. Trudeau’s brand, is that following the resignation of Ms. Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, a former Treasury Board president, from Mr. Trudeau’s cabinet, the prime minister kicked them out of his party. For many, this was a shocking way to treat two ?

In Canada, these developments, as well as a host of others, have changed how liberals see Mr. Trudeau. He is far less popular than he was in 2015, a leader despised on the right and often ridiculed on the left.

These stories, though, rarely made a stir in the United States. Occasionally, I’d see articles alluding to Mr. Trudeau’s troubles. Recently, Hasan Minhaj’s Netflix series “Patriot Act” featured an episode with Mr. Trudeau, in which he uncomfortably answers questions about the gap between his image and his policies. But overall, the American story of Mr. Trudeau as a “dream politician for the left,” as Mr. Minhaj put it, stuck. Until now, that is.

There are two ways this story will be understood, depending on which side of the border you’re on.

For many Americans, the story connects Canada to what’s often seen as a deeply ingrained American tradition: blackface. Down here, Trudeau’s brownface and blackface episodes are bursting the Canadian exceptionalism bubble. Slowly but surely Americans are learning we Canadians can be just like you: very, very racist.

For Canadians, though, the story is different. It also has bigger stakes, coming as it does in the middle of a federal election that has seen the Liberals and Conservatives neck-and-neck in the polls. It’s the latest in a series of scandals that have led many liberals to grow disillusioned and, yes, even flat out embarrassed by Mr. Trudeau.

Sorry, Americans. As Canadians living in the United States, we tried to tell you: That dude you thought was your dreamy boyfriend? He’s not all he’s cracked up to be. And like you, we’re wondering, as Jagmeet Singh, leader of Canada’s New Democratic Party and the first person of color to lead a major party, put it: “Who is the real Mr. Trudeau?”
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