High Ranking Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly

[dapaterson]

A police officer can keep their job after drawing their service weapon on another officer and threatening them with it.

Much more job security than your average joe and the worst take advantage of that.

3 a.m. teasing instigates officer to pull gun on co-worker: RCMP code of conduct hearing | Globalnews.ca

A code of conduct hearing said a Kelowna constable, after being incessantly teased, pulled a gun on a co-worker in March 2019.

globalnews.ca

Meanwhile if I were to do such a thing for starters even threatening someone where I work is grounds for immediate termination (the running joke is if you are going to threaten someone you might as well hit them as your fired either way). And that is excluding the host of charges that would be thrown at me likely resulting at the minimum of losing my firearms license, and jail time.

Meanwhile police officer does it a year of supervision on the job with 15 days pay docked. Definitely a double standard at work.

The ultimate (so far) Canadian police story:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/donovan-perjury-acquittal-1.7272601

 

[Jarnhamar]

A police officer can keep their job after drawing their service weapon on another officer and threatening them with it.

Pointing a firearm, assault with a weapon, using a firearm in the commission of an offense, careless use of a firearm, uttering threats.

What did the other RCMP officers get in the way of discipline for just watching this unfold?

 

[Eaglelord17]

Pointing a firearm, assault with a weapon, using a firearm in the commission of an offense, careless use of a firearm, uttering threats.

What did the other RCMP officers get in the way of discipline for just watching this unfold?

It doesn’t sound like any thing. Here is another article on it with more information (stating the chief wanted her fired). Somewhat difficult to research, search engines don’t want to go back that far and many news article links are dead now.

Kelowna cop transferred for pointing gun at officer who was teasing her - Kelowna News

A former Kelowna RCMP officer was transferred and docked pay after pointing her gun at a fellow officer who was teasing her, while they were inside the Kelowna detachment.

www.castanet.net

Just googling her name shows she was with the RCMP in 2022 in Cowichan area. Good chance she is still employed.

Double standards like this is unacceptable in my opinion. The police need to be held to a higher standard than your general public specifically due to the level of trust and power placed in their hands. Punishments should be more severe not less.

Not to mention is this who you want to show as the minimum standard for your workplace? To have your new recruits come in and be told ‘yeah it’s a slap on the wrist for one of the most serious offences you can make’?

It seems she is doing fine, however she should not have been given the second chance. Getting fired should have been the least of her worries. Firearms prohibition and jail time should have been required.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Double standards like this is unacceptable

You don't think you can point a loaded pistol at a RCMP officer, threaten them, and walk off with a $3000 to $4000 fine and transfered job locations (paid move presumably).

 

[brihard]

Pointing a firearm, assault with a weapon, using a firearm in the commission of an offense, careless use of a firearm, uttering threats.

What did the other RCMP officers get in the way of discipline for just watching this unfold?

Given that it went to a conduct hearing, sounds like they reported it. From the limited description in the written conduct decision, we don’t know who did what after the brief span of seconds the incident took place in. We don’t have a video de they the others “just watched this unfold”, though we do have evidence all but one of them didn’t see much. A place the size of Kelowna would have a couple levels of supervisor on shift; the appropriate actions would be to report it up right away and truthfully provide statements on what they saw to assist an investigation. If that was done there would be no reason to do a conduct investigation on any of the witnesses.

Worth noting that RCMP only publishes their most serious conduct matters, those that go to a “conduct hearing”. Those are conduct processes where the member’s job is on the line. They also have “conduct meetings” for lower stuff, pretty comparable to a CAF summary hearing. An RCMP conduct hearing can’t do criminal so it would kind of fall between a summary hearing and a court martial. They can’t impose detention or prison but can impose large fines.

Anything criminal for RCMP or other cops would go through normal civilian court, separate from the conduct process.

 

[Haggis]

The ultimate (so far) Canadian police story:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/donovan-perjury-acquittal-1.7272601

Un-freakin-believable! But, that's not necessarily a Canadian police story but more of a Canadian law story.

 

[dapaterson]

Un-freakin-believable! But, that's not necessarily a Canadian police story but more of a Canadian law story.

"On duty police officer attacks other on duty police officer, second officer shoots first officer ten times" would seem, at first blush, to be a police-centric.

 

[brihard]

"On duty police officer attacks other on duty police officer, second officer shoots first officer ten times" would seem, at first blush, to be a police-centric.

It’s at least a little bit policey.

 

[dapaterson]

It’s at least a little bit policey.

To be fair, the article does not mention double-doubles and TimBits, so those core elements of Canadian policing can only be surmised.