Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

[Underway]

If the whispers I've heard about new energetic storage and processing infra are true then Canada will be well served.

Oh please god yes. Apply that same thinking to Naval Ordinance onboard ships.

The expansion to support units is also long overdue.
I will stand by my belief there are tooany ammo techs and what we need are better trained supply techs that can make a career track out of ammo.

From the officer side they finally recognized that Naval Combat Systems Engineers don't need to take half the ammo courses the Log O's do for their Ammo Officer qualifications. It will reduce their training time by half or something like that. Mainly because they get that training elsewhere already (ammo safety quals for example).

 

[Halifax Tar]

If the whispers I've heard about new energetic storage and processing infra are true then Canada will be well served.
The expansion to support units is also long overdue.
I will stand by my belief there are tooany ammo techs and what we need are better trained supply techs that can make a career track out of ammo.

I did write a memo/service paper suggesting this shortly after I got back.
The senior ATO at the time, understandably, pointed at Supply Tech levels which were in the shitter and said it was a non starter.

Interesting.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Oh please god yes. Apply that same thinking to Naval Ordinance onboard ships.

From the officer side they finally recognized that Naval Combat Systems Engineers don't need to take half the ammo courses the Log O's do for their Ammo Officer qualifications. It will reduce their training time by half or something like that. Mainly because they get that training elsewhere already (ammo safety quals for example).

The RCN does ammo so silly on ships.

Ammo accountability has been abysmal in every ship I have inspected. I have another ship and a sub this week to inspect.

 

[NavyShooter]

The RCN does ammo so silly on ships.

Ammo accountability has been abysmal in every ship I have inspected. I have another ship and a sub this week to inspect.

The RCN also blew up Halifax a couple of times...(ok, only once was actually our fault.) So, Vol 3 ships is based on not letting that happen again.

Let's put heavy mats at the foot of the ladders as we move small arms ammo onboard....then in case someone drops a can, they won't damage the deck nor the ammo can.

The rules I was given to consider were....overboard....so I twitted with them at one point. I was asked for my plan to re-ammo the ship with 680 rounds of SAA once as a part of our FP ammo loadout. Moving it from D-40 to the jetty.

The 'safe' method was to have the ship's truck swapped with a properly placarded vehicle borrowed from CFAD, escorted by a fire truck to ensure the ammo didn't spontaneously combust.

The 'backup' plan was to walk through the yard with the ammo can in hand, followed by a sailor carrying a water based fire extinguisher.

Those were COA 1 and COA 2. COA 3 was that I'd walk over, pick up the can, and bring it back to the ship.

All 3 COAs went to Formation Ammo, and they 'let' me do COA 3.

Realistically, you can stub out a cigarette with a 5.56 round and it won't go off.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The RCN also blew up Halifax a couple of times...(ok, only once was actually our fault.) So, Vol 3 ships is based on not letting that happen again.

Let's put heavy mats at the foot of the ladders as we move small arms ammo onboard....then in case someone drops a can, they won't damage the deck nor the ammo can.

The rules I was given to consider were....overboard....so I twitted with them at one point. I was asked for my plan to re-ammo the ship with 680 rounds of SAA once as a part of our FP ammo loadout. Moving it from D-40 to the jetty.

The 'safe' method was to have the ship's truck swapped with a properly placarded vehicle borrowed from CFAD, escorted by a fire truck to ensure the ammo didn't spontaneously combust.

The 'backup' plan was to walk through the yard with the ammo can in hand, followed by a sailor carrying a water based fire extinguisher.

Those were COA 1 and COA 2. COA 3 was that I'd walk over, pick up the can, and bring it back to the ship.

All 3 COAs went to Formation Ammo, and they 'let' me do COA 3.

Realistically, you can stub out a cigarette with a 5.56 round and it won't go off.

Not really what I was getting at.

My intent is more about the material accounting practices and processes.