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Iran Super Thread- Merged

back to the fertilizer situation for the bit. Looks like production wise theres no problem in Canada and the US
apparently according to Secretary only 25% of fertilizer production has been secured for the season so back to a pricing issue

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Is there any way the government could purchase some hefty quantities of fertilizer at today's price + then somehow works with the retailers to sell that same fertilizer to farmers for cost or less??

(Like when they announce "We're setting aside millions to help farmers!" - I don't actually know where that money goes or how it's used. I just assumed it was mostly in the form of tax credits or something like that)




EDIT - The issue of North American farmers having to pay high prices seems like a fairly simple fix if North America can produce it's own in sufficient quantities.

Take care of our own needs first. And THEN sell the excess to foreign markets for whatever the market dictates.

The cost of food would stabilize somewhat, allowing families to do a lot more with their money than keep spending it all at bloody Safeway - and we are going to need some form of structural fix soon because food prices will skyrocket just from the oil issue alone
 
What are you going on about? Just days ago they landed an economically massive hit on Qatar’s natural gas sector. I’m not talking about Iran having some additional, still more potent capabilities it’s been hiding away awaiting this moment. I’m talking about simply more of the same on already known soft economic targets. Refineries, liquefaction plants, loading terminals… None of this requires some hidden super weapon; just Iran deciding “OK, fine, let’s take out three more of Qatar’s LNG production trains.” and firing more of the same.

Since my previous reply, sounds like they’ve promised to do exactly that.


I believe Iran retains sufficient ability to make the costs of further strikes on their civil infrastructure economically cost prohibitive. Doesn’t mean Trump won’t do it anyway.

There's more than $1 trillion+ in pleged US investments made by all the countries and more currently being attacked by Iran because of the US/Israel.

We're going to see those start being shrunk or withdrawn as the damage mounts.

EDIT: I forgot the article, from March 5th. We've already seen force majeure used over the last 2 weeks since this article released for oil and gas related contracts.

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Sounds like Iran tried to hit Dimona nuclear plant but not surprisingly they missed, and hit the city instead. Serious damage and casualties. The general trend tonight is that their large warhead missiles are getting though at least in Israel and the night is marked by interception failures and misses. At this point it would be quite surprising to see Israel simply walking away from this war.

Edit: and I thought Iran did NOT have nuclear weapons... The author of this post generally seems accurate in his commentary.

 
Trump is now threatening to bomb Iran's power plants. Technically an actual war crime.
Not necessarily; Iran and the US (and Israel) are belligerents and targeting each others' industrial capacity can meet the test of necessity (eg. depending on uses of it). Ukraine and Russia have been doing a lot of it.
When Iran responds by targeting Gulf power plants and desal, I wonder what Trump's response will be.
I wonder what the world's response will be. Definitely (or very close to it) actual war crimes against non-belligerents. Iran is on firm ground attacking US forces and installations, but cannot seriously argue that it has a right to attack civil and private infrastructure as it pleases.
 
The US bombed the power plants in Serbia in 1999. Although I don't know what they used, because they did disrupt the power for a week or so but caused very little damage to the plants. Graphite bombs maybe.
So is it a war crime then if they do something similar?
 
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The question is: "How many do they have remaining that they can launch" They may be in a "Use it before we lose it" mode and possibly playing a bluff.
 
It also leaves a few thousand Marines horrendously exposed.


Does it though? IRGC can choose not to contest ground on America’s terms, but would likely welcome American troops in range of small drones fired from standoff. Nothing forces Iran to give the Americans a set piece battle along the coast.



I’m estimating that Iran has observed how troops in Ukraine can be killed with FPVs and the video sent out quickly online, and that they recognize how potent this would be against America if they can pull it off. I believe this would serve Russia’s interests too. I estimate Iran has likely acquired ‘good enough’ attack drone capability to make this a reality, and that Russia could and would supply more.
My guess is Trump is going to push to have Marines used and land somewhere, the Islands makes sense. If the Marine adopt in and out raids rather than hold, then yes the Iranians need to man some defenses near any of their remaining facilities.
Listening to the Ukrainians, it takes awhile to train up drone operators and get used to the limitations of fibreoptic FPV drones. It's likley the Iranian operators are not as proficient as the Russian and Ukrainians and the number of drones it takes to get those videos is high even for very experienced operators. On the down side the Marines are not used to fighting in a drone environment either, but will have air cover.
 
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