Iran Super Thread- Merged

[dapaterson]

Weight = more fuel = more taxes

So indirectly it does that

Problem is that the damage isn't linear with fuel consumption.

 

[ytz]

Problem is that the damage isn't linear with fuel consumption.

Yep. It's not like bike paths have to get resurfaced every summer. Fourth power law makes big rigs painful.

The private sector does a great job of recognizing this differential. Look at the 407's rates by vehicle category.

 

[ytz]

And one Yuan to Xi, pick your poison.

EVs don't have to be made in China. Oil and gas, however, can't simply be manufactured.

All my feedstock and most of the refined fuels come from Western Canada.

The market for oil and gas isn't just restricted to Western Canada as a seller unfortunately.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Problem is that the damage isn't linear with fuel consumption.

Well when EV start paying an actual roadtax, then we can talk weight.

 

[ytz]

Well when EV start paying an actual roadtax, then we can talk weight.

I believe Alberta, Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia already have specific road taxes for EVs.

Personally, I think it would be great to get rid of excise taxes and go to plate fees that reflect the consumption of the road. Really, no car would be paying less than $300/yr. And should go up from there depending on weight. Which would actually hit EVs cause they are heavy.

But this is an irrelevant tangent to the geopolitics of oil and gas.

 

[Ludoc]

I received no incentives when I bought my EV and my yearly registration is higher to offset the fact that I don't pay gas tax.

 

[McG]

Well when EV start paying an actual roadtax, then we can talk weight.

Where do you live that you pay a road tax?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Where do you live that you pay a road tax?

It's worked into parking and fuel taxes

Revenue 2023

2019 expenditures, Roads and bridges are 6% of their expenditures

2019 revenue as well Fuel tax 45%, Parking taxes 9%

 

[McG]

It's worked into parking and fuel taxes

In two cities across the country. You are whining to tax electric vehicles across the country because you are unhappy with your municipal tax set-up? Maybe think of a Vancouver solution to your Vancouver complaint.

 

[ytz]

Also. Not parking and road taxes in a Canadian city are not relevant to whether say Thailand buys more EVs. The Strait of Hormuz being closed is ......

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

And one Yuan to Xi, pick your poison. All my feedstock and most of the refined fuels come from Western Canada.

Also I pay road taxes and don't cost the government an incentive. With lack of road taxes and the buying incentives for EV, they are a drain on the government coffers. Time to level the playing field, road taxes payable by km based on vehicle weight to match that of a ICE vehicle and do away with the incentives. By now if they can't stand on their onw feet, then the consumer don't want them.

Quebec has started that way, perhaps because we are the province with the largest number of EV's. Starting next year, EV owners will be charged an extra amount on their tags renewal to cover their part of the road maintenance that used to come out of gas taxes.

 

[dapaterson]

Quebec has started that way, perhaps because we are the province with the largest number of EV's. Starting next year, EV owners will be charged an extra amount on their tags renewal to cover their part of the road maintenance that used to come out of gas taxes.

Ontario already charges EVs double.

But plate renewal is free, so

 

[Halifax Tar]

Ontario already charges EVs double.

But plate renewal is free, so

Drive a V8...

 

[KevinB]

Drive a V8...

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I love my 6.2L V-8, other than now it’s $150 USD to fill twice a week.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I love my 6.2L V-8, other than now it’s $150 USD to fill twice a week.

I have coyote. Love it... As for the gas price... meah I cant do anything about it.

I cant see me going EV.

 

[QV]

The Coyote is a great engine. I love it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The Coyote is a great engine. I love it.

Amazing sound. But I think my next will be the 250 with the 7.3 Godzilla.

Because I love burning dinosaur bones and pissing off hippies.

 

[HavokFour]

Interesting. It seems they're just going to let Iran do what it wants.

It sounds like they're actively trying to avoid a war powers vote.

Iran's attacks on US below threshold of restarting fighting, Caine says

abcnews.com

Iran's attacks on US below threshold of restarting fighting, Caine says​

The fragile ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran continues to hold, with Iranian attacks being below the threshold of ending the agreement, U.S. officials told reporters on Tuesday.

"Since the ceasefire was announced, Iran has fired at commercial vessels nine times and seized two container ships, and they've attacked U.S. forces more than 10 times, all below the threshold of restarting major combat operations at this point," Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters Tuesday.

The decision to restart military operations is a political one Caine and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth did not comment on.

"Right now the ceasefire certainly holds but we're going to be watching very, very closely," Hegseth said.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Interesting. It seems they're just going to let Iran do what it wants.

It sounds like they're actively trying to avoid a war powers vote.

Iran's attacks on US below threshold of restarting fighting, Caine says

abcnews.com

And the Russians and Chinese are sitting back and taking notes.....

 

[KevinB]

And the Russians and Chinese are sitting back and taking notes.....

Imagine the howls if Biden had done that...