Iran Super Thread- Merged

[Altair]

One doesn’t need to invade Iran to weaken the regime.
This sort of thing is SOF and IC folks bread and butter. UW and targeted killings on a reverse COIN approach. Start on the fringes and grow a revolution.

If not now when?

3 months in.

Yeah, forget about it.

 

[daftandbarmy]

One doesn’t need to invade Iran to weaken the regime.
This sort of thing is SOF and IC folks bread and butter. UW and targeted killings on a reverse COIN approach. Start on the fringes and grow a revolution.

But that won't 'git 'er dun' before the next round of midterm elections...

 

[QV]

If not now when?

3 months in.

Yeah, forget about it.

The Berlin Wall fell in 1989.... the USSR didn't formally cease to exist until late 1991.

Assad in Syria looked permanent until he suddenly wasn't.

Specific events can demonstrate that a regime is either not invincible or mortally wounded - such as the ass whooping Israel and USA inflicted on Iran.... Institutional collapse can come later like in the above two examples. It's during the later part where different pressures are also added.

 

[HavokFour]

Confirmed a few things himself.

Trump confirms he called Netanyahu crazy in phone call

U.S. President Donald Trump acknowledged having called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu crazy in an expletive-filled phone exchange over fighting in Lebanon, while the U.S. was trying to negotiate an end to hostilities with Iran.

www.reuters.com

 

[KevinB]

If not now when?

3 months in.

Yeah, forget about it.

Oh believe me, I think this whole debacle stinks -- I am just offering a possible COA, one that is a lot more deniable, and one that ideally would not see a lot of Gulf targets hit by Iran.

 

[KevinB]

Confirmed a few things himself.

Trump confirms he called Netanyahu crazy in phone call

U.S. President Donald Trump acknowledged having called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu crazy in an expletive-filled phone exchange over fighting in Lebanon, while the U.S. was trying to negotiate an end to hostilities with Iran.

www.reuters.com

Did Benny return with "Pot this is Kettle you are black too"?

 

[Altair]

Oh believe me, I think this whole debacle stinks -- I am just offering a possible COA, one that is a lot more deniable, and one that ideally would not see a lot of Gulf targets hit by Iran.

If there is a rebellion... if people take up arms, when better than now to strike the IRGC as they fight the rebels? Or to shoot down any remaining air assets Iran May own? Or to tolerate a closure of the strait of Hormuz? It's already closed, nothing to lose. A closure in the future will be all the more painful.

A rebellion 2 years, 3 years from now is doomed.

So if not now, when?

Let's not forget, and I know he has said a lot between day one and day now, but the moment of your liberation has arrived were the words spoken.

So all this talk, Iran is on the brink, Iran facing uprisings, Iran that will overthrow the the Ayatollahs and IRGC, it's bull.

Iran is proving more resilient than ever, and Israel and the USA is giving it that legitimacy.

What a waste.

 

[KevinB]

If there is a rebellion... if people take up arms, when better than now to strike the IRGC as they fight the rebels? Or to shoot down any remaining air assets Iran May own? Or to tolerate a closure of the strait of Hormuz? It's already closed, nothing to lose. A closure in the future will be all the more painful.

A rebellion 2 years, 3 years from now is doomed.

So if not now, when?

Let's not forget, and I know he has said a lot between day one and day now, but the moment of your liberation has arrived were the words spoken.

So all this talk, Iran is on the brink, Iran facing uprisings, Iran that will overthrow the the Ayatollahs and IRGC, it's bull.

Iran is proving more resilient than ever, and Israel and the USA is giving it that legitimacy.

What a waste.

No disagreement here.

All I see in Iran is pain -- regardless of what COA is chosen -- I think it is better to take the pain now.
Unfortunately the US/Israel original COA has left any good options to be unpleasant and a lot more painful than they could have been several months ago.