Iran Super Thread- Merged

[Altair]

The best part of this cluster is watching the war measures resolution die a pathetic, shameful, death.

 

[PuckChaser]

Everyone's been so good so far but if you want to be the reason we drag this into the politics area, please continue.

- Milnet.ca Staff

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Oh fully agree.

My point is that no one is safe.
America and Israel have a modest cushion above others before things grind to a stop.


They can be flooded with seawater - I have zero idea on what that does long term though.

Everyone is.

At the end of the day the current situation isn’t sustainable.

It isn’t fascination.
Regardless of calling it Americas war or not as you have mentioned it is a global issue.

At a point the west will act out of necessity.

History has shown that outlook to be wrong time and time again.



Where did I say anything about Trumps crusade.



Iran is very well aware that there is a fine line of how it can push the West and the Gulf States before it becomes worthwhile to act with a very heavy hand.

Part of the challenge is that the Gulf States are used to having someone else do the lifting. If the Houthi try closing the Straits again, it's possible that Egypt might decide to help out this time, they do have two amphibious landing ships for such a purpose and not their first Yemen adventure. Cutting the Houthi's off from the coast, will cause them no end of trouble and international orgs have stopped sending aid in, which has been a big source of cash for them. KSA and UAE have to stop effing around in Yemen and start backing the same players, or at least have their proxies play nice with each other.

 

[Czech_pivo]

You’d be gloriously happy your house burned down if you could blame it on President Trump wouldn’t you.

Maybe remember if a drunken skipper is at the helm, the crew sitting back giving peanut gallery comments at it hits a shoal doesn’t make you less culpable.

You seems to misunderstand that in a global oil crisis everyone is screwed.

And, pulling on that string even more, could there be famine in one or more parts of the world? Could there be a new Civil War because of this, which leads to potential millions of new refugees/illegal mirgtants on the march?
The possible cascading affects are endless.

 

[Furniture]

Just a reminder for those who are too deep in their politics to see things objectively, the last time the Houthi shut the BAM the world got together to deal with it.

There is zero reason to believe the world will be any happier/tolerant with the Houthi this time. The BAM makes it about far more than energy and fertilizer, and will hit China just as hard or harder than the West.

China can have all the coal they want, but if the world can't get their goods, they aren't making money.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

And, pulling on that string even more, could there be famine in one or more parts of the world? Could there be a new Civil War because of this, which leads to potential millions of new refugees/illegal mirgtants on the march?
The possible cascading affects are endless.

No one seems to give a sh*t about the current civil war and famine in Sudan, now if Egypt goes down the toilet, people are going to worry big time.

 

[Czech_pivo]

No one seems to give a sh*t about the current civil war and famine in Sudan, now if Egypt goes down the toilet, people are going to worry big time.

What about Saudi? UAE? Qatar?

 

[Kilted]

Is Trump even pretending that there is a least an objective anymore?

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Is Trump even pretending that there is a least an objective anymore?

Sorry! A what???

 

[brihard]

Just a reminder for those who are too deep in their politics to see things objectively, the last time the Houthi shut the BAM the world got together to deal with it.

There is zero reason to believe the world will be any happier/tolerant with the Houthi this time. The BAM makes it about far more than energy and fertilizer, and will hit China just as hard or harder than the West.

China can have all the coal they want, but if the world can't get their goods, they aren't making money.

Ok, but did commercial shipping return to normal through BaM as a result of coalition military action that collectively defeated the Houthis? I donmt believe it did. Further, has the continued rapid development of strike drones made the job of threatening shipping through that Strait easier? I suspect it has.

I think the Houthis are capable of being enough of a threat that the same issue of commercial insurance denying coverage can become an effective halt on much merchant shipping.