Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)

[George Wallace]

...those Palestinians tho...

There's a reason why Egypt had just made their border wall higher & more reinforced over the last year, and why Jordan said a clear 'F**k No!' when the world was looking at where to send refugees from Gaza...

Fair points. Why are we allowing them to come here and perpetuate their problems from their native country in ours?

The reality that no Muslim nation will accept Palestinian refugees has not sunk in with our Government. No Muslim nation will accept Palestinians because of their history of creating chaos and violence. The King of Jordan had to use his military to forcibly expel Palestinians in 1970, because they were starting a Civil War in Jordan. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, Palestinians in Kuwait backed the Iraqi invasion. Kuwait expelled all Palestinians after the Gulf War. Look at Lebanon, once the Paris of the East, and we find Palestinians once again started a Civil War. They are a cancer wherever they migrate. They raise their children to be terrorists. They have been a knife in the back of Israel now, for over five decades.

 

[brihard]

I imagine CSIS is doing its thing, and the CSE is doing its thing.

Just to be nitpicky, CSE is pretty constrained there. Their enabling legislation does not permit them to target Canadians for intelligence collection. Some incidental collection of information over which Canadians have a reasonable expectation of privacy is permitted, but not deliberate targeted intelligence collection. ‘Canadians’ includes permanent residents.

Doesn’t mean they’re necessarily out of the mix, but in the security intelligence world they play the away games, and the home games are mostly the Service.

 

[MilEME09]

Oh my

Teens accused of plotting to bomb pro-Israel rally on Parliament Hill | Globalnews.ca

Newly-released documents reveal suspected target of alleged ISIS-linked plot on Ottawa Jewish community.

globalnews.ca

 

[Cloud Cover]

Just to be nitpicky, CSE is pretty constrained there. Their enabling legislation does not permit them to target Canadians for intelligence collection. Some incidental collection of information over which Canadians have a reasonable expectation of privacy is permitted, but not deliberate targeted intelligence collection. ‘Canadians’ includes permanent residents.

Doesn’t mean they’re necessarily out of the mix, but in the security intelligence world they play the away games, and the home games are mostly the Service.

SIRC cattle prods everyone in the pantal region if these lines become blurry whether one or the other agency was even aware. Excluding expressly set out assist requests, of course.
What’s really shocking is the new layers of DEI and UB applied to the collection decision process for an op.

 

[JLB50]

Although I realize that multiculturalism has been enshrined into law, I still believe more in the melting pot concept which used to be the norm in the U.S., which is now almost as multicultural as we are. Canada spends way too much time and money urging people to hold on to their ethnic, linguistic and cultural traditions…if they want to do it on their own…fine. It just shouldn’t be government policy which, in my opinion, tends to promote disunity rather than unity along with the preservation of ancient animosities from faraway lands.

 

[brihard]

Looks like Vancouver Police executed a search warrant on a residence belonging to Charlotte Kates of Samidoun. One person arrested but not named. VPD is citing a promotion of hatred investigation.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-hate-crimes-arrest-1.7383796

 

[OldSolduer]

Looks like Vancouver Police executed a search warrant on a residence belonging to Charlotte Kates of Samidoun. One person arrested but not named. VPD is citing a promotion of hatred investigation.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-hate-crimes-arrest-1.7383796

All the neighbors adore them . How BC is that?

 

[lenaitch]

A name like Charlotte Lynn Kates doesn't jump out at me as person that tighter immigration could have prevented. Some of her followers perhaps but I wouldn't be surprised a lot of them have Canadian birth certificates as well. It seems she is a domestic product.

 

[Furniture]

A name like Charlotte Lynn Kates doesn't jump out at me as person that tighter immigration could have prevented. Some of her followers perhaps but I wouldn't be surprised a lot of them have Canadian birth certificates as well. It seems she is a domestic product.

Who radicalized her?

I'm guessing their birth certificate isn't from Charlottetown, or Winnipeg...

Trotting out the "homegrown terrorist" card when we are dealing with Islamism is a cheap tactic.

 

[lenaitch]

Who radicalized her?

I'm guessing their birth certificate isn't from Charlottetown, or Winnipeg...

Trotting out the "homegrown terrorist" card when we are dealing with Islamism is a cheap tactic.

I was simply trying to tie her into the discussion that seemed to want to say that if we better controlled immigration we wouldn't have these problems.

Given today's technology she, and any of her fellow travellers from Charlottetown or Winnipeg could be radicalized and support from pretty much anywhere on the planet. How many nice, white Canadian girls travelled to the Middle East to find their true loves in a tent?

 

[Furniture]

I was simply trying to tie her into the discussion that seemed to want to say that if we better controlled immigration we wouldn't have these problems.

Given today's technology she, and any of her fellow travellers from Charlottetown or Winnipeg could be radicalized and support from pretty much anywhere on the planet. How many nice, white Canadian girls travelled to the Middle East to find their true loves in a tent?

Likely a handful at best.

Since we are now playing this game, how many people have we let in who openly hate Canada and our liberal democratic society?

 

[RangerRay]

All the neighbors adore them . How BC is that?

In fairness, one neighbour liked them and another wasn’t keen on having terrorists in the neighbourhood.

 

[RangerRay]

A name like Charlotte Lynn Kates doesn't jump out at me as person that tighter immigration could have prevented. Some of her followers perhaps but I wouldn't be surprised a lot of them have Canadian birth certificates as well. It seems she is a domestic product.

She’s from the Land of the Free.

MSN

 

[Halifax Tar]

I was simply trying to tie her into the discussion that seemed to want to say that if we better controlled immigration we wouldn't have these problems.

If we controlled our immigration better we would have less problems from elsewhere. That doesn't mean we would have no problems, it means we would have less problems.

Assholes are assholes, Canada has lots of them; lets just not import any new ones.

 

[Quirky]

She clearly admires hamas. There is an easy solution for that, air drop her into gaza out the back of a globemaster. Win win.

 

[brihard]

If we controlled our immigration better we would have less problems from elsewhere. That doesn't mean we would have no problems, it means we would have less problems.

Assholes are assholes, Canada has lots of them; lets just not import any new ones.

Yup, we have quite a mix of extremists in Canada. Some imported as immigrants, many home-grown. Anyone can self-radicalize online and we’ve seen that for many years now.

Better checks and controls on who’s coming in would help somewhat… But we have a whole lot of problem children who are Canadian born and raised.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Yup, we have quite a mix of extremists in Canada. Some imported as immigrants, many home-grown. Anyone can self-radicalize online and we’ve seen that for many years now.

Better checks and controls on who’s coming in would help somewhat… But we have a whole lot of problem children who are Canadian born and raised.

Echo echo echo

 

[OldSolduer]

If we controlled our immigration better we would have less problems from elsewhere. That doesn't mean we would have no problems, it means we would have less problems.

Assholes are assholes, Canada has lots of them; lets just not import any new ones.

Because we can grow assholes as good as anyone else....in fact some ways we are superior....

 

[Czech_pivo]

A name like Charlotte Lynn Kates doesn't jump out at me as person that tighter immigration could have prevented. Some of her followers perhaps but I wouldn't be surprised a lot of them have Canadian birth certificates as well. It seems she is a domestic product.

Maybe she's a CUPE member?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

And then there are the Irish

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'America's always had a love-hate relationship with immigration'​

But historically, did those waves of earlier immigrants face similar fear mongering as what you describe is happening today?

Absolutely. The Irish who came in the 1800s were greeted with 'No Irish Need Apply' signs. In 1882, the federal government enacted the so-called Chinese Exclusion Act which specifically forbade further immigration of Chinese people to America.

In 1924, the federal government enacted the National Origins Act which set quotas for Italians and Eastern Europeans so that they could exclude largely Jewish immigrants.

America has always had a love-hate relationship with immigration. On the one hand, we have the Statue of Liberty telling us that we welcome the poor, the tired, the huddled masses. On the other hand we have a long tradition of prejudice and laws designed to keep immigrants out.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/episode-415-midterms-and-the-impeach-o-meter-pot-marketing-laws-how-not-to-propose-vimy-oaks-and-more-1.4896932/america-s-always-had-a-love-hate-relationship-with-immigration-the-caravan-and-the-country-s-immigrant-past-1.4896938

Wasn't just the Irish. My grandfather was put on a ship, alone as a small child, aged 5 years, from England and sent here as child labour. The note pinned to his coat was his identification. He worked as a blacksmith appretice