Joe Rogan and Pierre Poilievre interview

[PPCLI Guy]

Fair observation. Based on my long association with this forum, I tend to jump quickly on what I see as bad faith posting. That is because I care about the quality of the discussion here, as I have found the discussion informative , occasionally illuminating, and often humorous over the last 20 years plus.

I am not chasing individuals. I am pointing out less productive behaviours, which seem to have increased over the last few years.

Having said that, you are right that this is unhealthy, and I understand that - my protestations notwithstanding - it may appear that I target individuals, even if that is not my intent.

I also appreciate your observations. I need to check my own biases, as well as my own behaviours. I could certainly stand to be less quick off the mark, as well as being gentler in my messaging.

Thanks!

 

[Halifax Tar]

Pierre does it again, well done!

Just wrapping this up now.

I think it's obvious that either him or Jenni Byrne fucked up the last campaign and should have let this PP out.

The sad part is the oldies who are hoarding their riches and cowering over the Orange man won't listen to these.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Just admit you all fell for the psy ops campaign

Is that the psy op/MSM IO that gave Team Blue such a big lead in polling for many months until they got their with and PMJT GTFO’ed?

 

[GR66]

I'll be upfront on the whole PP issue. I voted Conservative in the last three elections but did vote for JT in 2015 as the Conservatives were stale by that point and the country needed a change (but unfortunately didn't get the right kind of change). That being said I wasn't a PP fan and felt that the Conservative Party went the wrong direction in picking their leader.

I listened to the full Joe Rogan interview but haven't had a chance to watch the 2nd link yet. I thought the tone PP struck during the interview was definitely an improvement over what we saw in the lead up to the last election. That being said I felt it was a bit of a softball interview...more of a chat about MMA and health issues with some politics thrown in. Definite improvement but not enough for me to be convinced yet that he's the right leader to face Carney.

I'll watch the 2nd interview and try to keep an open mind about him, but as of now I still think the Conservatives should find a new leader before the next election. The bloom will inevitably come off Carney's rose (as it does with every government since none can ever deliver on everything that people expect) and I can't help but feel that the Conservatives might be better prepared under a different leader.

 

[DBNSG]

Just wrapping this up now.

I think it's obvious that either him or Jenni Byrne fucked up the last campaign and should have let this PP out.

The sad part is the oldies who are hoarding their riches and cowering over the Orange man won't listen to these.

I was contacted by the Conservatives for a donation shortly after the last election. I asked the guy on the phone why Jenni was
still around after losing four elections but Telford and Butts moved on after winning four. Umm aaah gee that's a god point.
They have not phoned back.

 

[Good2Golf]

Pierre does it again, well done!

I might actually have voted for him IF he had been this person.

Same dude he has always been. Just presented differently. I admit Jenni Byrne did him no favours. Now, go back and look at the lesser known CANADIAN podcast interviews he did during the election 2025 campaign, same style, same Pierre. However many in this nation were rabid with TDS and bought the MSM slander campaign against Pierre.

No. He has learned from his past performance and adjusted how he interacts and communicates.

Don’t blame Jenni Byrne, he accepted whatever advice she gave, that’s on him.

Your point that this man existed last year during the campaign (I disagree) as evidenced by the more obscure social media space and that the majority of the voting citizenry only saw him verbing the (Trudeau-related) noun a day late and a penny short in fact confirms that he didn’t have his shizzle wired tightly during the campaign.

Ummm, thats not it all. He is the same guy as a year ago. He is in his mid 40s. Just admit you all fell for the psy ops campaign

You continue to say this. I don’t buy it for a second. He was off his campaign game without question.

I tried several times to engage through his constituency office in the years prior to the election and nothing back at all. An 11th hour try by one of his campaigners coming by my house (two blocks over from PP’s [pre-Stornaway] house) with a bunch of non-answers to my questions as to why he was still on Trudeau and not focusing on Carney’s platform. He was committed to staying on a stale message, that he stole defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

[Jarnhamar]

the difference standards of criticism many people here have CPC vs LPC.

This is a very accurate observation here and other platforms.

salivating at the opportunity to disagree with him and flex your own intellectual muscle is an unhealthy lifestyle choice.

I mean, let's be real. If Poilievre was posting here he'd call ArmyRick aggressive lol

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I'll be upfront on the whole PP issue. I voted Conservative in the last three elections but did vote for JT in 2015 as the Conservatives were stale by that point and the country needed a change (but unfortunately didn't get the right kind of change). That being said I wasn't a PP fan and felt that the Conservative Party went the wrong direction in picking their leader.

I listened to the full Joe Rogan interview but haven't had a chance to watch the 2nd link yet. I thought the tone PP struck during the interview was definitely an improvement over what we saw in the lead up to the last election. That being said I felt it was a bit of a softball interview...more of a chat about MMA and health issues with some politics thrown in. Definite improvement but not enough for me to be convinced yet that he's the right leader to face Carney.

I'll watch the 2nd interview and try to keep an open mind about him, but as of now I still think the Conservatives should find a new leader before the next election. The bloom will inevitably come off Carney's rose (as it does with every government since none can ever deliver on everything that people expect) and I can't help but feel that the Conservatives might be better prepared under a different leader.

The CPC had a leadership review at end January. The Party claims 95% participation from party members. Pierre garnered 87.4% of that vote. I'll take those numbers over individual opinion.

 

[ArmyRick]

I might actually have voted for him IF he had been this person.



No. He has learned from his past performance and adjusted how he interacts and communicates.

Don’t blame Jenni Byrne, he accepted whatever advice she gave, that’s on him.

Your point that this man existed last year during the campaign (I disagree) as evidenced by the more obscure social media space and that the majority of the voting citizenry only saw him verbing the (Trudeau-related) noun a day late and a penny short in fact confirms that he didn’t have his shizzle wired tightly during the campaign.



You continue to say this. I don’t buy it for a second. He was off his campaign game without question.

I tried several times to engage through his constituency office in the years prior to the election and nothing back at all. An 11th hour try by one of his campaigners coming by my house (two blocks over from PP’s [pre-Stornaway] house) with a bunch of non-answers to my questions as to why he was still on Trudeau and not focusing on Carney’s platform. He was committed to staying on a stale message, that he stole defeat from the jaws of victory.

If PM MC was actually doing a very good job (He has had many bumps rather quickly in his time as PM), he would be sailing very high in the polls (He is still high but I suspect the chickens will be home to roost soon). And Pierre would be irrelevant. No one would want to hear from him.

Now back in 2025, how was he supposed to pivot against Carney? (who lets be honest had CBC and CTV worshipping his every word) What would have been the strategy? He was unknown. He did lie during the election and leadership campaign. Anything the CPC challenged him on would have been "it was the previous government, not us" BS.

Here is the good news. PM MC is very popular with 65+ boomer crowd, they are unfortunately the fastest shrinking cohort for obvious reason. Pierre's podcast on bigger podcast international just gets him more of the exposure he needs, and lots are liking what he says and how he does it. Also, people took 4-6 years to get tired of Trudeau, they will get sick of Carney much, much sooner especially if food, rent/mortgage and transportation is sky high (the cost of living).

So now that Pierre has obviously changed his format, how does Carney pivot?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So now that Pierre has obviously changed his format, how does Carney pivot?

Carney doesn’t really pivot. He spins like his foot is nailed to the floor.

 

[mariomike]

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[RangerRay]

I listened to the full Joe Rogan interview but haven't had a chance to watch the 2nd link yet. I thought the tone PP struck during the interview was definitely an improvement over what we saw in the lead up to the last election. That being said I felt it was a bit of a softball interview...more of a chat about MMA and health issues with some politics thrown in. Definite improvement but not enough for me to be convinced yet that he's the right leader to face Carney.

That’s Rogan’s style; a softball conversational interview. He doesn’t push back hard when contradicted.

 

[IKnowNothing]

The CPC had a leadership review at end January.The Party claims 95% participation from party members. Pierre garnered 87.4% of that vote. I'll take those numbers over individual opinion.

To clarify- there were ~2600 votes cast, which represent 95% of the delegates that were willing to pay the ~$1000 entrance fee and fly to Calgary in January.

As of the 2022 leadership race party membership was ~680k. 2600 is 0.3% of that, not 95

 

[Good2Golf]

So now that Pierre has obviously changed his format, how does Carney pivot?

Pivot? I don’t think a pivot is necessary for Team Red (and their Blue Grit *leader). Personally, I’d like to see Trudeau’s remnant cabinet flotsam and jetsam shown the door of Privy Council….’buh-bye!’

 

[ArmyRick]

Pivot? I don’t think a pivot is necessary for Team Red (and their Blue Grit *leader). Personally, I’d like to see Trudeau’s remnant cabinet flotsam and jetsam shown the door of Privy Council….’buh-bye!’

Right now, Carney needs everybody he can in the LPC, to get and hopefully retains majority. Hell, he would accept a corpse if it gave him his majority. Remember, I said a brief while ago, I want the Carney Liberals to get a majority and I want them to stay in power for awhile. My reasons are far from noble and altruistic (Look at me using fang dandled fancy words).

What really kills the Liberals everytime? One thing. Arrogance.

What really kills the Conservatives everytime? One Thing. Complacency.

I still remember many here defending Trudeau with every fiber of reason and excuses they could muster. In the end, Trudeau was revealed to be a big negative post 2019 for the LPC. It was O'Toole weakness that gave Trudeau another victory in 2021 (and yeah, Trudeau exploited COVID too).

PM MC is enjoying a honeymoon. How long do you think it will last? He does not have Trudeau's youthful charm (and smugness). I stand by my statement that Carney squandered a golden opportunity. Ohhh, another side note totally unrelated, Brookfield and many of the companies they own, are making out like bandits in the last year. Just saying. And yes, there is a parliamentary committee looking into Carney's conflicts of interest. It really doesn't look good.

So if the Carney Liberals keep up the arrogance, sooner or later, the Liberal machine will come crashing down hard. Remember Wynne and the Ontario Liberals? The federal Liberals were able to pull out a rabbit out of the hat in the form of prorogation and Carney swap in. Also they exploited Trump's big mouth verbal BS. And Jagmeet's failure to takedown the government (Which the NDP has paid for and may still for years to come).

Time will tell. Keep in mind, Pierre is enjoying an excellent podcast tour internationally. ANd polls do tend to have a lag time before they catch up.

Lets see what happens.

 

[ArmyRick]

To clarify- there were ~2600 votes cast, which represent 95% of the delegates that were willing to pay the ~$1000 entrance fee and fly to Calgary in January.

As of the 2022 leadership race party membership was ~680k. 2600 is 0.3% of that, not 95

Whatever. The CPC (including me) wanted Pierre Poilievre to stay and so here he is.

 

[Good2Golf]

Pretty much 100% with you on everything you said ArmyRick, less your characterization of this…

It was O'Toole weakness that gave Trudeau another victory in 2021 (and yeah, Trudeau exploited COVID too).

This was to some degree a not well-played game by O’Toole but in the Joe Clark sense of more naivety that there would still be confidence, or belief that there wouldn’t be a “bucket of crabs” internal CPC knife fight that would give Le Dauphin yet another ‘W’…

 

[ArmyRick]

Pretty much 100% with you on everything you said ArmyRick, less your characterization of this…



This was to some degree a not well-played game by O’Toole but in the Joe Clark sense of more naivety that there would still be confidence, or belief that there wouldn’t be a “bucket of crabs” internal CPC knife fight that would give Le Dauphin yet another ‘W’…

Very interesting insight. O'Toole was in a tough bind for sure. Had he spoken out against the COVID restrictions, he would have been labled as "anti-vax, Canadian killing, etc" (That was Trudeau's schtick that election), info are fortunate to have readily available that carbon emmissions are not the issue we thought they were (at that time speaking against the carbon tax was losing 50% of the population as it was seen as anti-environment).

I wonder, if that 2021 election happened a year later or a year and half later, (especially post trucker convoy protest), would O'Toole had A. taken a different approach? and B. Would Canadians patience with Justin worn down enough to choose O'Toole?

 

[Good2Golf]

I think he would have. I know and like Eric. He was closer to my genetic small-c prairies-based leaning than the Reform/Alliance/beyond parties in the CPC tent.