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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending
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FJAG
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Bill Blair about why Canada won’t spend 2% on defence:
Blair says he couldn't sell cabinet on meeting 'magical threshold' of NATO target
Defence Minister Bill Blair says he couldn't convince the Liberal cabinet that Canada's government needed to meet NATO's spending target in its recent defence policy update.www.ctvnews.ca
Also, there is no point throwing money into a department of the government that is designed to be systemically disfunctional.
How about because all of NATO, INCLUDING our dolt of a prime minister, agreed that everyone should.
Worst government that I can remember - and I lived through all of Pierre and Jean's regimes.
Yet Anand never really said much in public. At least Blair, for all his faults, has been quite vocal of late.
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Again, because he doesn't have a future to worry about. He was damaged goods coming into the MND role as it is. He can be as vocal as he wants, without consequece, but also without clout because no one cares what he has to say.
Anand didn't have that same luxury without shooting herself in the foot in the process.
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Dolt!!!How about because all of NATO, INCLUDING our dolt of a prime minister, agreed that everyone should.
Worst government that I can remember - and I lived through all of Pierre and Jean's regimes.
I love that word. Dunderhead is a good one.
I lived through PETs regime as well. This is worse.
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Bill Blair about why Canada won’t spend 2% on defence:
Blair says he couldn't sell cabinet on meeting 'magical threshold' of NATO target
Defence Minister Bill Blair says he couldn't convince the Liberal cabinet that Canada's government needed to meet NATO's spending target in its recent defence policy update.
Also, there is no point throwing money into a department of the government that is designed to be systemically disfunctional.
That Canada’s contribution to Alliance security need to be a junior minister (Defence in Canada is way down the pecking order….somewhere between Sports and Physical Activity and Canadian Heritage…) pitching the case to their fellow cabinet ministers, says how unserious Canada is as a member of the Alliance.
So his vocalist output is worth…what?
To be fair, I think dysfunctional government can be applied to all of North America. And some of our western European allies as well.
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Not disagreeing there, but Canada’s apathy towards National Defence is fairly unique for a G7 nation.
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Except for a few actually on the front line, of course
EUROPE AT A STRATEGIC DISADVANTAGE: A FRAGMENTED DEFENSE INDUSTRY
When Russia invaded Ukraine last year, the European continent was unprepared for war. European rejection of large-scale conflict had become so deeply ingrained that many leaders were incapable of believing that Russia would conduct such an invasion despite repeated Russian warnings, such as the illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014. The end of the Cold War had led many European countries to reduce their defense budgets, and further cuts after the financial crisis of 2008 along with systemic underinvestment in the defense sector had only weakened the continent’s defense infrastructure. This, coupled with increasingly expensive defense technology, led to a reduction in national force volumes and stockpiles, which in turn limited the operational capabilities and effectiveness of European armies.
Europe at a Strategic Disadvantage: A Fragmented Defense Industry - War on the Rocks
When Russia invaded Ukraine last year, the European continent was unprepared for war. European rejection of large-scale conflict had become so deeply
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We are ONLY a G7 country because the US wants us there to counter the Europeans - we are NOT there because we act like we belong there or deserve to be there.
Both Pretty Boy Justin (and friends) as well as Pierre Polyester have no intention of seriously increasing the defence budget, otherwise they would now be informing the public of the true seriousness of the threats posed by China, Russia and their axis-of-evil buddies. Canada has no equivalent of Winston Churchill to sound an alarm. Hell, even Neville Chamberlain realized at the 11th hour what Nazi Germany was up to. Our leaders will wait till it’s almost midnight and then cry out, “Hey, America, help us…those guys on the other side of the world aren’t playing fair…they’re…UN-CANADIAN!”
Hard to disagree with that!
Are we even a G7 country anymore?
I know we are considered a G7 nation, but in practical & real terms...are we?
Considering Mexico, a country with widespread poverty & a massive cartel problem, recently overtook us as America's largest trading partner...I'm starting to have my doubts that we are still in that club.
Part of what made us a G7 country is our natural resources, the extraction & development of which Justin has targeted & has allowed to die slowly ever since he came into office...
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We're # 10 in GDP - but China, India, and Brazil are ahead of us so we rank in the G7 but as #7. We are only a smidgen behind #6 Italy. Russia comes after us and Mexico after them.
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Well, given that the G7 is essentially a “club”, we’re one until the club decides that we’re not.
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That's true but it's a club based on quite different values than merely defence issues. In fact, I'd say that defence is well down the list of other economic, cultural, even climate issues. Remember that for a while it was the G8 with Russia included. In 2014 the G8 didn't expel Russia when seized Crimea but merely suspended membership. Russia decided to walk on its own in 2017. There are constant talks to expand the membership rather than contract it.
Quite frankly it's much easier to form new "clubs" to address common issues while keeping the G7 perking along. I don't think that our membership there is at risk. Neither is our membership in NATO. It's always good to have a bad example at the table when you want to call someone out in order to make a point.
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Unsure of #1, Agree with #2, Doubt #3
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