I'll believe it when I see it.
That is a very silly idea lolYears ago in the 1VP A Coy lines in Currie I told D Inf that we should kill off everyone over the rank of Captain in the Infantry as at that point all that was being done was Coy Level Cbt Team attacks, which let’s be honest only needs a Captain to run.
To me the CAF needs to organize as a war fighting entity to justify it existence. The RCN and RCAF mostly seem to be able to do that (though I think the Tac Hel numbers are woeful) While the CA seems to enjoy making farcical formations to the expense of actual capability. Then there are the other commands - that just seem to suck life from everyone.
Years ago in the 1VP A Coy lines in Currie I told D Inf that we should kill off everyone over the rank of Captain in the Infantry as at that point all that was being done was Coy Level Cbt Team attacks, which let’s be honest only needs a Captain to run.
To me the CAF needs to organize as a war fighting entity to justify it existence. The RCN and RCAF mostly seem to be able to do that (though I think the Tac Hel numbers are woeful) While the CA seems to enjoy making farcical formations to the expense of actual capability. Then there are the other commands - that just seem to suck life from everyone.
My point was more that decade saw some significantly poor efforts of the CA (or at least 1 CMBG) to do much more than Coy level work.A good Infantry commander will make sure everyone in their unit can do everyone else's job, if required.
For example, I've seen Private soldiers lead pretty good platoon attacks.
My point was more that decade saw some significantly poor efforts of the CA (or at least 1 CMBG) to do much more than Coy level work.
Which is not anything sort of reasonable for an Army that is allegedly purposed for LSCO’s
True but it’s really embarrassing if all of a sudden you need to plug into an allies Division and no one knows how.Good point... training higher than company level takes a significant investment in time and resources...
Yes I did asshat. Especially when I gave up a position back in the Reg force as I was on the project to send Memory Boxes to the family's of our fallen soldiers who died in service and was told that if I didn't accept that I gave up my chance. The Army Sgt Major had a nice talk to them, but I lost my chance as it was a year back logged so why dont you just fuck off. I carried on till the last family got their Memory box. What the fuck have you done?Did you tell them they should all be demoted to Colonel or lower?
For sure, I don't think it makes sense for a higher rank to work for a lower rank (officer or NCM) on the actual CoC, just giving some examples where it's common for folks to report to someone at the same rank. See the same thing with some LCdr and Cdr jobs, but again getting less uncommon as people tend to get promoted faster due to huge shortages. In my trade anyway, the triangle tends to shrink pretty quickly around 3 ringer.Define leading from your perspective.
@Navy_Pete equal rank isn’t so much the issue - a senior Captain can command with a junior Captain [or Lt(N)] as a subordinate, but when one gets into unit commands and higher it isn’t ideal, and in no way should a junior member have command over a senior.
If a junior has command over a senior it’s a terrible thing for multiple reasons not just pay and benefits but it brings to question the entire rank structure. Does it occur at times - yes but usually at much lower levels, and it’s still a corrosive issue.
The GOC should cap the GOFO levels, but they won’t as the love empire building too.
Wasn't that one of the reasons the Wehrmacht in WW2 were so good? NCOs were trained one or two levels of command higher?A good Infantry commander will make sure everyone in their unit can do everyone else's job, if required.
For example, I've seen Private soldiers lead pretty good platoon attacks.
Wasn't that one of the reasons the Wehrmacht in WW2 were so good? NCOs were trained one or two levels of command higher?
Asshat? WTF is that?Yes I did asshat. Especially when I gave up a position back in the Reg force as I was on the project to send Memory Boxes to the family's of our fallen soldiers who died in service and was told that if I didn't accept that I gave up my chance. The Army Sgt Major had a nice talk to them, but I lost my chance as it was a year back logged so why dont you just fuck off. I carried on till the last family got their Memory box. What the fuck have you done?
Im tired of getting shit on. Kick me off here Im ok with that.
Yes I did asshat. Especially when I gave up a position back in the Reg force as I was on the project to send Memory Boxes to the family's of our fallen soldiers who died in service and was told that if I didn't accept that I gave up my chance. The Army Sgt Major had a nice talk to them, but I lost my chance as it was a year back logged so why dont you just fuck off. I carried on till the last family got their Memory box. What the fuck have you done?
Im tired of getting shit on. Kick me off here Im ok with that.
WTF - is that coming from intake issues at the bottom and overall throughput or from course unavailability for the trained lieutenants and captains who are otherwise ready to move up or guys in FOO positions off on other courses?in my Battery of 9 OP Dets we have a whopping 1 FOO, and I can tell you that’s true across all three.
Bit of both. Captains hit FOO just as they’ll be getting looked at for IG. We’re seeing FOOs with 1 year in the OPs at most.WTF - is that coming from intake issues at the bottom and overall throughput or from course unavailability for the trained lieutenants and captains who are otherwise ready to move up or guys in FOO positions off on other courses?
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Regt/Bn: CO: LCol; Sub-unit OCs: Majs: Unit Staff: Adjt (S1): Capt, IO (S2) Capt, OpsO (S3) Capt, QM (S4) Capt
Bde: Comd: Col; Unit COs: (LCols/Majs); Bde Staff: G1: Capt, G2: Capt, G3: Maj; G4: Maj (FTFY)
To me the CAF needs to organize as a war fighting entity to justify it existence. The RCN and RCAF mostly seem to be able to do that (though I think the Tac Hel numbers are woeful) While the CA seems to enjoy making farcical formations to the expense of actual capability.
C Company, 1st Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment, Operation MEDUSA the days after September 4th, 2006.A good Infantry commander will make sure everyone in their unit can do everyone else's job, if required.
For example, I've seen Private soldiers lead pretty good platoon attacks.
That's what happens when you spend four years at university. In the three years you have as a 2ndLt and Lt you still need language school and some other things.Bit of both. Captains hit FOO just as they’ll be getting looked at for IG. We’re seeing FOOs with 1 year in the OPs at most.
Therein lies the difference between the Brit staff model and e.g. the American/European-like one where S3s at bn are Majs and Coy comds capts and at bde the S3 is LCol like the unit COs.
I've got no statistics from anywhere to support this - just a gut feel - but our earlier Brit system meant that orders were thinner and unit COs more relied on to use their initiative (I guess an early version of mission command). Where G3/S3s outrank sub-unit or unit commanders one finds a trend towards "teaching grandmothers to suck eggs" coming from the higher staff.
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