Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[GR66]

Live Results: Australia federal election 2025

Local networks project Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's left-leaning Labor Party will form Australia's next government.

www.bbc.com

Interesting that Australia seems to have had a Trump factor election result as well emulating what happened here.

Including the unseating of their conservative leader.

From what I've heard the Conservative leader ran a terrible campaign...went full Trump (including suggesting a DOGE-type government review) and when that strategy went over like a lead balloon he tried to pivot but it was far too late and the damage already done.

 

[HavokFour]

Live Results: Australia federal election 2025

Local networks project Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's left-leaning Labor Party will form Australia's next government.

www.bbc.com

Interesting that Australia seems to have had a Trump factor election result as well emulating what happened here.

Including the unseating of their conservative leader.

First time an Opposition leader has lost their seat in Australia too.

 

[Cloud Cover]

 

[brihard]

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What I don’t have a read on is if it’s a done deal, or if this is him and his faction doing their best to position himself for this week’s caucus meeting. I haven’t seen anything solid on whether his political survival is considered assured.

 

[PrairieFella]

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We probably don't need the cool guy Poilievre stuff anymore, he just got humiliated by a political nobody haha.

 

[HavokFour]

We probably don't need the cool guy Poilievre stuff anymore, he just got humiliated by a political nobody haha.

And is running off to a prairie bunker.

 

[MilEME09]

What I don’t have a read on is if it’s a done deal, or if this is him and his faction doing their best to position himself for this week’s caucus meeting. I haven’t seen anything solid on whether his political survival is considered assured.

Very good point, do cpc rules have a mandatory review for him?

 

[brihard]

Very good point, do cpc rules have a mandatory review for him?

Yes, at the next convention.

 

[Czech_pivo]

We probably don't need the cool guy Poilievre stuff anymore, he just got humiliated by a political nobody haha.

Maybe a slice of humble pie instead of an apple….

 

[Furniture]

We probably don't need the cool guy Poilievre stuff anymore, he just got humiliated by a political nobody haha.

So humiliated that he lead the CPC to a greater share of the popular vote than any other CPC leader since Mulroney?

The CPC lost but it wasn't PP, as much as it was events south of the border, and the NDP discovering FAFO on a national stage.

He lost his seat, but he isn't the first MP to do that and make a comeback.

 

[MilEME09]

So humiliated that he lead the CPC to a greater share of the popular vote than any other CPC leader since Mulroney?

The CPC lost but it wasn't PP, as much as it was events south of the border, and the NDP discovering FAFO on a national stage.

He lost his seat, but he isn't the first MP to do that and make a comeback.

Vary true, however if they stick to the same strategy, it will go poorly for them. If Carney delivers on even half his promises, the CPC will potentially be facing the strongest liberal leader in 20 years.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Was the area Poilievre inherented in Ottawa after boundaries were redrawn mostly Conservative or mostly Liberal previously?

 

[MilEME09]

Was the area Poilievre inherented in Ottawa after boundaries were redrawn mostly Conservative or mostly Liberal previously?

Bit of both, as the redraw absorb a bit of rural and urban areas.

 

[brihard]

Vary true, however if they stick to the same strategy, it will go poorly for them. If Carney delivers on even half his promises, the CPC will potentially be facing the strongest liberal leader in 20 years.

If they choose Poilievre again, just means I can’t vote CPC next time.

Poilievre was defeated (for PM) by a challenger who had no Parliamentary experience and almost no PM experience. Carney was almost entirely unproven in that realm. Now, Carney’s in office and has begun with some positive and promising early actions. There’s potential that he could do quite well and may impress in the role. He may next time have an incumbent advantage buttressed by objectively strong performance.

Poilievre is a known quantity. If Poilievre proves a mature, competent, centrist leader, and if Poilievre’s personal qualities are not seen as having risen to meet that, he may falter again.

Campaigning against an incumbent Mark Carney will not be like campaigning against Justin Trudeau. The same tactics and messaging may not work.

 

[brihard]

Was the area Poilievre inherented in Ottawa after boundaries were redrawn mostly Conservative or mostly Liberal previously?

Elections Canada released poll by poll results from 2021 that allows for the 2021 results to be compared with the new (2025) boundaries versus the old. Had 2021 been contested with the new boundaries, the Conservatives would have had stronger results than they did by 2-3%. So it could be fairly said that, save for any affect of demographic change in the riding since 2021, the redistribution likely made it a bit more conservative and should have favoured Poilievre.

Tables from Wikipedia, with data sourced from Elections Canada:

 

[Jarnhamar]

After consideration and despite the ignominy of losing his seat Poilievre is the best candidate to run the CPC for the next couple of years. At least until a strong replacement can be lined up.

The Liberals aren't a new party, someone needs to call them on their shady behavior.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Was the area Poilievre inherented in Ottawa after boundaries were redrawn mostly Conservative or mostly Liberal previously?

Agreed. However, a stinging headline...

How Canada's Conservatives threw away a 27-point lead to lose again​

As a clear Liberal win was emerging on election night, Conservative candidates and their supporters had one question: What the heck just happened?

The party had lost a remarkable 27-point lead in opinion polls and failed to win an election for the fourth time in a row.

And while it gained seats and earned almost 42% of the popular vote - its highest share since the party was founded in 2003 - its leader Poilievre was voted out of the seat he had held for the past 20 years.

"Nobody's happy about that," Shakir Chambers, a Conservative strategist and vice-president of Ontario-based consultancy firm the Oyster Group, told the BBC.

The party is now trying to work out how it will move forward.

How Canada's Conservatives threw away a 27-point lead to lose again

Leader Pierre Poilievre faces divisions within the Conservative movement as he fights to stay on as leader.

www.bbc.com

 

[MilEME09]

Albertans rally for separation, saying things won’t change under Confederation

Albertans rally for separation, saying things won’t change under Confederation

Katheryn Speck was among hundreds of people who rallied at the Alberta legislature to support separation from Canada, with many in the crowd waving Alberta flags and a few even displaying the U.S. Stars and Stripes.

www.ctvnews.ca

the comments here show the really the type of people supporting this. Really trying to debate 3 on Twitter, they all commonly also believed 2014 was a cia coup in Ukraine and that Russia is winning the war. So I am starting to question is AB separatists are a foreign influenced destabilization campaign

 

[Remius]

Albertans rally for separation, saying things won’t change under Confederation

Albertans rally for separation, saying things won’t change under Confederation

Katheryn Speck was among hundreds of people who rallied at the Alberta legislature to support separation from Canada, with many in the crowd waving Alberta flags and a few even displaying the U.S. Stars and Stripes.

www.ctvnews.ca

the comments here show the really the type of people supporting this. Really trying to debate 3 on Twitter, they all commonly also believed 2014 was a cia coup in Ukraine and that Russia is winning the war. So I am starting to question is AB separatists are a foreign influenced destabilization campaign

The Bloc Redneckois. I didn’t come with it but funny…

 

[RangerRay]

Elections Canada released poll by poll results from 2021 that allows for the 2021 results to be compared with the new (2025) boundaries versus the old. Had 2021 been contested with the new boundaries, the Conservatives would have had stronger results than they did by 2-3%. So it could be fairly said that, save for any affect of demographic change in the riding since 2021, the redistribution likely made it a bit more conservative and should have favoured Poilievre.

Tables from Wikipedia, with data sourced from Elections Canada:

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Yeah I remember reading or hearing something about that. The new boundaries were supposed to make it stronger for him. Funny how the choices we make can completely change things.