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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

Easterners make stuff like this, then wonder where western separatism comes from...

The casual bigotry of Easterners toward the West is always fascinating to me, as a Maritimer disparaged by both groups.

Wait until you hear one municipality diss another, right next door for the past 100 years, municipality.

It's one of those human things, unfortunately...

 
In my youth in the aftermath of the second Quebec referendum, I toyed with the idea of BC independence for about a nanosecond. Mostly from a throwaway line I read in a book I read about the national unity question where the authors stated that the only province that had the economic ability to go it alone was BC. It didn’t take long for me to figure out that BC would go from being a part of one of the wealthiest, most influential countries in the world, to New Zealand. Don’t get me wrong, NZ is great. But their Air Force doesn’t have fighter jets. An independent BC would have to pay for all the trappings of being a state including a credible military, foreign service with embassies, a national security apparatus, etc. These things aren’t cheap. Taxes will have to go up. There goes any economic advantage you thought you had over neighbouring jurisdictions.

As for Alberta and/ or Saskatchewan becoming an economic powerhouse once the chains are broken from Ottawa, I don’t think so. A landlocked country of 4 million people with a single industry dependent on world exports is not ideal. And swapping imperial overlords in Ottawa for imperial overlords in Washington is laughable. Alberta would go from being the wealthiest province in the country with 4 million out of 40 million people to Oklahoma, if the Yanks grace you with statehood which is not guaranteed. You would more likely become a territory like Puerto Rico with no voting rights or representation.

Much of this rhetoric is being boosted by Russia, China and Iran, because this only benefits our enemies.
 
In my youth in the aftermath of the second Quebec referendum, I toyed with the idea of BC independence for about a nanosecond. Mostly from a throwaway line I read in a book I read about the national unity question where the authors stated that the only province that had the economic ability to go it alone was BC. It didn’t take long for me to figure out that BC would go from being a part of one of the wealthiest, most influential countries in the world, to New Zealand. Don’t get me wrong, NZ is great. But their Air Force doesn’t have fighter jets. An independent BC would have to pay for all the trappings of being a state including a credible military, foreign service with embassies, a national security apparatus, etc. These things aren’t cheap. Taxes will have to go up. There goes any economic advantage you thought you had over neighbouring jurisdictions.

As for Alberta and/ or Saskatchewan becoming an economic powerhouse once the chains are broken from Ottawa, I don’t think so. A landlocked country of 4 million people with a single industry dependent on world exports is not ideal. And swapping imperial overlords in Ottawa for imperial overlords in Washington is laughable. Alberta would go from being the wealthiest province in the country with 4 million out of 40 million people to Oklahoma, if the Yanks grace you with statehood which is not guaranteed. You would more likely become a territory like Puerto Rico with no voting rights or representation.

Much of this rhetoric is being boosted by Russia, China and Iran, because this only benefits our enemies.

Meanwhile, the Netherlands - 41,865 km² vs. Vancouver Island - 32,100 km²

Growth in gross domestic product (GDP) per capita, in real terms (after inflation) at purchasing power parity, between 2014 and 2024


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How big is the Dutch economy?​

The size of the Dutch economy is measured in terms of its gross domestic product (GDP), which surpassed 1 trillion euros in 2023. GDP is the sum of all the goods and services produced in a country in one year. The Dutch economy is about four times larger than the Portuguese economy, for example, and almost twice the size of the Belgian economy. Meanwhile, the German economy is about four times the size of the Dutch economy.

 
Albertans rally for separation, saying things won’t change under Confederation


the comments here show the really the type of people supporting this. Really trying to debate 3 on Twitter, they all commonly also believed 2014 was a cia coup in Ukraine and that Russia is winning the war. So I am starting to question is AB separatists are a foreign influenced destabilization campaign
That was never in question.
 
That was never in question.
The CIA for one has a long history of secretly financing the destabilization of other countries, especially in Latin America. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they were in Alberta right now giving financial and strategic support to some of the separatist leaders.
 
Based on the 2021 poll results redistributed, with no changes he would have been marginally ahead in 2025 with the new boundaries.
And a big suburban chunk of his former riding went to Ottawa South. McGuinty saw an increase of 19% vote share this time over the last. So it is possible that a significant portion of that may have voted against PP if the riding had stayed as it was.
 
The CIA for one has a long history of secretly financing the destabilization of other countries, especially in Latin America. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they were in Alberta right now giving financial and strategic support to some of the separatist leaders.
or the chinese? They probably have more to gain than the u.s. by de-stabilizing any western country
 
After consideration and despite the ignominy of losing his seat Poilievre is the best candidate to run the CPC for the next couple of years. At least until a strong replacement can be lined up.

The Liberals aren't a new party, someone needs to call them on their shady behavior.
But is he the best person to run against Mark Carney for PM in a few years? He was probably the best person to run against Trudeau. I don’t personally believe he’s the best the CPC can choose to run against Carney, and that’s the choice they need to make.
 
or the chinese? They probably have more to gain than the u.s. by de-stabilizing any western country
A number of countries could gain from a fractured Canada. But the U.S. would gain the most from Alberta pulling out of Canada. There’s no way they could possibly exist as an independent or even semi-independent country for very long, even if they allowed rail and highway trade between British Columbia and the eastern provinces . The U.S. oil and gas industry already pretty much controls the shots in Alberta and they would get the U.S. government to help grab Alberta and possibly Saskatchewan very quickly. British Columbia couldn’t exist very long either. After that, the other provinces would topple like dominoes…even linguistically different Quebec despite their language laws.

I mentioned somewhere awhile back in another thread that my mother had a brother in law who was in the C.I.A. in the 1950s/60s/70s. He wouldn’t give her specific information about what he actually did, other than to smile and say something like…“It’s interesting how, after I’ve been to Latin America a revolution always seems to occur.”

IMHO if Canada is broken apart by Alberta’s departure, the U.S. will be in for the kill rather than allow some other country to get the resources of what used to be Canada. And I am sure that Trump’s new C.I.A henchmen are already working to make it happen.
 
No questions allowed until Tuesday? Weird timing of a press conference and to add no questions? Weirder


This certainly could go many ways. Her first meeting with Carney reported just a day ago was "positive". This might just be a new fabricated distraction however, for the fact that Alberta still lacks a permanent chief medical officer.
 
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