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Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

CPC doing what CPC does best under this leader, vote against anything and everything the gov puts down. Once again showing Pierre Poilievre’s party doesn't care about holding the government accountable or helping Canadians, it just says no.

They're doing what all opposition parties do, voting against the government on things that will pass without their votes... Pretending it's a uniquely CPC thing is disingenuous.

If it was a confidence motion with a fear the newly elected government would fall, the LPC and CPC would be working together to get it passed.
 
In order for that to be legally binding I think there would have to be some form of 'uber treaty' or something. A piece of government legislation would only bind the Crown side and, push come to shove, a FN could say the umbrella group no longer speaks for them. A similarity would be a union being the legal bargaining unit for a group of employees.
Depending on the model, definitely.

One (probably) not needing a "United Nations of Canada" treaty could see the AFN acting as facilitator to bring together a per-consultation group of affected nations, and perhaps get a bunch of the intramural politicking addressed, before putting everyone together with federal reps.
 
They're doing what all opposition parties do, voting against the government on things that will pass without their votes... Pretending it's a uniquely CPC thing is disingenuous.

If it was a confidence motion with a fear the newly elected government would fall, the LPC and CPC would be working together to get it passed.
all spending bills are confidence motions as far as I recall, and No, holding the government to account and just voting no on everything are two entirely different things.
 
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And if they went off half-cocked just to do something, they'd get dinged too, sooooo .... 🤷‍♂️

All things considered I'm glad we have a banker prime minister over a typical politician (allegedly). It might be what we need to get Canada off the crappy trajectory the LPC has us on.

I have hope for him but Carney hasn't exactly proved he's not a typical Liberal politician yet.

Maybe if he shines through the next 4 years the Liberals may get a majority.
 
The Liberals promised a $40B deficit then blasted through the "guard rails" and hit almost $62B. That's not an accounting error.

Liberals word when it comes to money isnt worth much.

Besides Carney is a Harvard educated super economist with a PhD and experience running two world banks. I keep reading how incredibly qualified be is. I'm sure he can do better than some estimates where tax dollars are going to go.
The same comment keeps re-appearing extolling Carney's education. It gets very tedious reading replies that all start with the phrase "Besides, Carney...". Go back to basics. If you walked into your bank and said to your financial guru "I make 100000 a year. I am going to borrow a million from you and give a third of it away to foreign governments, give another third away to support domestic projects that have no chance of ever being viable and use the final third as collateral to borrow another million from the bank next door" He would laugh you out of the building or have you committed as being a danger to yourself and your family. But for Carney, we excuse him by running his credentials up the flagpole and saluting them. Dumb.
 
All things considered I'm glad we have a banker prime minister over a typical politician (allegedly). It might be what we need to get Canada off the crappy trajectory the LPC has us on.

I have hope for him but Carney hasn't exactly proved he's not a typical Liberal politician yet.

Maybe if he shines through the next 4 years the Liberals may get a majority.
My fingers are crossed, too, in spite of some at least yellow cards (Gilbeault being allowed to beak off without visible sanction or public contradiction, 2 x senior ministers not speaking to media at CANSEC) so far.

Then again, I was willing to give the guy with the cute socks and nice hair the benefit of the doubt when he first started, too. At least this guy, like you say, has at least some real-ish world experience going in.
 
The same comment keeps re-appearing extolling Carney's education. It gets very tedious reading replies that all start with the phrase "Besides, Carney...". Go back to basics. If you walked into your bank and said to your financial guru "I make 100000 a year. I am going to borrow a million from you and give a third of it away to foreign governments, give another third away to support domestic projects that have no chance of ever being viable and use the final third as collateral to borrow another million from the bank next door" He would laugh you out of the building or have you committed as being a danger to yourself and your family. But for Carney, we excuse him by running his credentials up the flagpole and saluting them. Dumb.
that one third you claim isn't viable however has investors and provincial governments screaming over, like Doug fords dumb 401 tunnel, or Smith wanting to revive northern gateway to a port the company didn't even originally want to go to, and doesn't support reviving.
 
My fingers are crossed, too, in spite of some at least yellow cards (Gilbeault being allowed to beak off without visible sanction or public contradiction, 2 x senior ministers not speaking to media at CANSEC) so far.

Then again, I was willing to give the guy with the cute socks and nice hair the benefit of the doubt when he first started, too. At least this guy, like you say, has at least some real-ish world experience going in.

He is still weighted down by the company he has kept as far as I am concerned.

Hopeful but doubtful.
 
all spending bills are confidence motions as far as I recall, and No, holding the government to account and just voting no on everything are two entirely different things.
As I pointed out, all opposition parties do this, so don't pretend it's unique to PP or the CPC. It's cheap politics, but it's what they all do.

Also, as I specified previously, they only play this game when the government won't fall in a confidence motion. If the LPC was going to fail a confidence motion this close to the last election, both parties would be working together to make it work.

The CPC have already made the LPC into CPC lite, so I'd say that's pretty effective opposition...
 
A sinking ship... Canada's economy in a nutshell, thanks largely to the Liberal government. Let's see if the new guy can pull it out of the nosedive:

 
that one third you claim isn't viable however has investors and provincial governments screaming over, like Doug fords dumb 401 tunnel, or Smith wanting to revive northern gateway to a port the company didn't even originally want to go to, and doesn't support reviving.
doesn't change the comment though. Wasted money is wasted money. We have dozens of foreign counties standing in line to reap of our largesse much of which is either wasted or spent on politically expedient projects that accomplish nothing. Decades ago we supplied blood-line Holsteins to Uganda to help boost their dairy production. Idi Amin gave a huge BBQ type party for the diplomatic community shortly thereafter. Guess what was on the menu at 10,000 a head? The provinces seem to be just as good at wasting money
 
A sinking ship... Canada's economy in a nutshell, thanks largely to the Liberal government. Let's see if the new guy can pull it out of the nosedive:



Smith said she’s optimistic about Alberta’s relationship with Carney.

“This new prime minister - I’ll give him credit for this - he has met with us many times,” she said.

She said Carney’s next visit to Alberta will come on Sunday (Edit: Today June 1) where she expects he will be meeting with business leaders “to get an idea of what it is that Alberta wants.”

“I can tell you they’re going to mirror the same things that we want, because I’ve been talking with them a lot, and we’ll go to Saskatoon for a first ministers’ meeting.

“I don’t think we have to wait that long. I think we will know in the communique that comes out after a day and a half of meetings, whether this government is serious about changing course, or whether we’re just going to have to double down on the fights. You don’t have to wait that long - just a couple more days.”


Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Friday his priority is mining in the “Ring of Fire,”

Ford said he believes Carney will pick a few priorities across the country that would have a major impact.

“One has to be the pipelines,” Ford said, adding Canada can’t “be relying on the U.S. any longer” as its primary energy customer.

“I think a priority is to bring the whole country together,” Ford said. “The previous government and previous prime minister didn’t show enough love, in my opinion, to Alberta and Saskatchewan. We have to be a united country.”

In a mid-May letter to Carney, Moe pitched 10 policy changes he said the federal government should make to reset Ottawa’s relationship with Saskatchewan.

His requests include starting negotiations with China to remove its tariffs on Canadian agri-food products, repealing the oil and gas emissions cap, expanding pipeline capacity and building trade and economic corridors across the country.

In May, New Brunswick Premier Susan Holt shared on social media her province’s priorities for nation-building projects, including critical mineral projects that are ready to move now.

She said New Brunswick ports are “ready to increase national and international trade with additional investments” and that the province is a leader in modular home building, ready to “tap into investments to tackle the national housing crisis.”

Manitoba Premier Wab Kinew also sent Carney a letter in May pitching federal-provincial partnership on several projects, including a trade corridor through the Port of Churchill, establishing Indigenous “fair trade zones” and developing critical minerals infrastructure. In his letter, Kinew called his province “the Costco of critical minerals.”

A May 1 letter from Eby to Carney cited four “priority areas” he said require closer partnership between B.C. and Ottawa: the ongoing softwood lumber dispute, efforts to streamline rail and trade corridors, clean energy and critical mineral projects, and housing affordability and homelessness.


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If Carney is smart, IMO, he will pitch the Green Revolution as delayed. Events, in the form of Trump, Putin and Trudeau's empty coffers have put the brakes on The Transition to The Brave New World.

The new economy will require we make money in the current economy.
 

Don’t know a lot about him

Nothing raising any immediate red flags from my quick look-through. Seems very much like Carney, but with more diplomatic experience in the mix. If anything it'll make those that are not a fan of Mendicino happier? Time will tell.
 
Nothing raising any immediate red flags from my quick look-through. Seems very much like Carney, but with more diplomatic experience in the mix. If anything it'll make those that are not a fan of Mendicino happier? Time will tell.
He’s got experience as a senior executive with Canada’s second largest pension fund pension fund, and he was pre of the NAFTA council for a time… Both of those bode well from a standpoint of being informed and probably pretty pragmatic and economically conventional. He’s previously worked on a prime ministerial transition team. I’m sure those who’ve already committed themselves to being anti-Carney will find things to object to, but to my amateur eye he would appear to have the chops for the role.
 
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