Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

631 First Nations ...
Any ideas re: how many you think would make more sense?

Zero ideas. Anytime a First Nation is offended about something it's an automatic attack on reconciliation. It's turned into a gun that gets pointed at everyone.

If you had 631 representatives on that council some Nations would be offended they don't get a bigger say because they have % more people or land.

The best thing PM Carney can do is plow ahead with projects that benefit Canada and all Canadians. FN benefit from a strong and productive Canada.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Zero ideas. Anytime a First Nation is offended about something it's an automatic attack on reconciliation. It's turned into a gun that gets pointed at everyone.

An (essential) veto that dare not speak its own name in government circles.

If you had 631 representatives on that council some Nations would be offended they don't get a bigger say because they have % more people or land.

Ask the Assembly of First Nations how easy it is to reach consensus among that many delegates

The best thing PM Carney can do is plow ahead with projects that benefit Canada and all Canadians. FN benefit from a strong and productive Canada.

Ideally for sure, but FNs - like workers at some companies - will say good economic times for Canada as a whole =/= consistently good economic times for FNs. I don’t have the answer either, but it’ll bear watching .

 

[lenaitch]

In a world that made a bit of sense, they could establish an advisory pool covering all areas of the country, either by treaty or ethnic 'tribe (there are a lot fewer 'ethnic groups than 'nations') plus Inuit (I'm purposely ignoring Metis) which could be drawn on depending on who is impacted by a particular project (i.e. Treaty 5 and Inuit for the Port of Churchill project). It would make logical sense, but would never work since they all claim to represent Turtle Island. We have created the problem by establishing a nation-to-nation relationship with individual communities, many of which have populations in the few hundreds. Canada didn't sign a treaty with Moose Factory or Poplar Hill FN, they signed Treaty 9 covering most of far-northern Ontario.

Many nations govern by consensus, so basically every single FN member claims a vote. If you've ever been to a FN council meeting, everybody gets a chance to talk. Whether anything is ever decided upon seems secondary to everybody being able to have a say.

Layer onto that the fact that some FN communities are divided between traditional (i.e. hereditary) and elected (i.e. 'white man's) leadership.

At the end of the day, in the vast majority of cases, money will talk. It's a bit of a shakedown.

 

[MilEME09]

Carney government to table bill proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences this week: source

Carney government to table bill proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences this week: source

Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government will introduce a bill this week proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences aimed at protecting people accessing places of worship, religious or cultural buildings, and schools.

www.ctvnews.ca

House is coming back and it sounds like criminal justice reform is on the menu

 

[Navy_Pete]

Carney government to table bill proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences this week: source

Carney government to table bill proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences this week: source

Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government will introduce a bill this week proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences aimed at protecting people accessing places of worship, religious or cultural buildings, and schools.

www.ctvnews.ca

House is coming back and it sounds like criminal justice reform is on the menu

There is also some intentions for bail reforms as well, see what the details look like but seems like reasonable updates.

I'm sure PP will be full of criticism regardless of the content. Some of the things Carney did was right out of their platform and somehow still had complaints that it was the wrong thing. It seems like reality matters a lot less then soundbites for their own crowd, even if it's straight out lies, spin or a 180 on their position.

 

[Jarnhamar]

We need bail reform before we need new criminal code offenses.

 

[Maxman1]

Or more specifically, we need to undo the reform we didn't need in the first place.

 

[daftandbarmy]

We need bail reform before we need new criminal code offenses.

There's the whole 'soft on crime' position too, of course...

Liberals’ soft-on-crime approach undermining Canadian law and order​

The Trudeau government introduced two pieces of legislation that significantly altered Canada’s justice system. Bill C-5 repealed the country’s mandatory minimum sentences for serious violent crimes and extended judicial discretion for sentencing that could take into account ethnicity and socio-economic background for those persons found guilty. Bill C-75 made it easier for serious repeat offenders to obtain bail quickly, including those charged with gun crimes, sexual assault, and other violent offences. This legislation also made it incumbent upon the prosecutors to prove that denying bail is justified. It established the principle of restraint, that a judge must release the accused “at the earliest of opportunity” on the “least onerous conditions,” regardless of the circumstances of the offender and the offense.

The effect of the Liberals’ sentencing policies can be found in the country’s crime data. A statistical comparison of urban centres in Canada and the United States completed by the Fraser Institute last year showed that both overall violent crime rates and property crime rates are now higher in Canada than in the U.S. cities like New York, L.A. and Detroit. The overall violent crime rate in Canada including murder, robbery and assault with a weapon was 434.1 crimes per 100,000 in 2022, a 43.8 per cent increase from 2014. By comparison, the U.S. violent crime rate in 2022 was 380.7 crimes per 100,000, a total of 14 per cent lower than in Canada. Also, the national figures for property crimes, which include burglary, theft, motor vehicle theft, etc., are 27.5 per cent higher in Canada than in the U.S.

Liberals’ soft-on-crime approach undermining Canadian law and order

The Liberal government’s “soft-on-crime approach” to Canadian law and order has left many Canadians feeling threatened, insecure, and less safe on their city’s streets – and in their residential neighbourhoods. The data and a constant stream of serious, lawless incidents reveals that criminals...

niagaraindependent.ca

 

[Maxman1]

Some of the things Carney did was right out of their platform and somehow still had complaints that it was the wrong thing.

That's mostly because they did it in a very half ass manner that didn't actually address the problem.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Carney government to table bill proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences this week: source

Carney government to table bill proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences this week: source

Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government will introduce a bill this week proposing new hate-related Criminal Code offences aimed at protecting people accessing places of worship, religious or cultural buildings, and schools.

www.ctvnews.ca

House is coming back and it sounds like criminal justice reform is on the menu

So basically what our Intimidation law already covers but is never used for.

 

[CBH99]

That's mostly because they did it in a very half ass manner that didn't actually address the problem.

Is it because parliament hasn't been sitting, that only so much work could proceed on each file up to a certain point?

Or did they legit just half ass it?



(Honest question - I haven't been following the details lately)

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EDIT - Holy goodness gracious, I just re-read what I wrote and I am absolutely mortified - it really is an honest question - I AM NOT DEFENDING THE LPC!

 

[MilEME09]

Carney government launches ‘Build Canada Homes’ with $13B initial investment

Carney government launches ‘Build Canada Homes’ with $13B initial investment

Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government is making an initial capital investment of $13 billion to launch Ottawa’s new affordable housing plan.

www.ctvnews.ca

4k units is the initial goal, first six sites already selected. Using modular home companies across the country to build year round

 

[brihard]

Carney government launches ‘Build Canada Homes’ with $13B initial investment

Carney government launches ‘Build Canada Homes’ with $13B initial investment

Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government is making an initial capital investment of $13 billion to launch Ottawa’s new affordable housing plan.

www.ctvnews.ca

400k units is the initial goal, first six sites already selected. Using modular home companies across the country to build year round

Details on the initial investments form the PMO news release:

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Build Canada Homes has a mandate to move quickly. To that end, the Prime Minister also announced its first four investments and initiatives:

1. As Build Canada Homes begins to develop public land sites under Canada Lands Company’s portfolio, it will prioritize innovative, factory-built housing. To begin, Build Canada Homes will prioritize six sites to build 4,000 factory-built homes on federal land – with additional capacity of up to 45,000 units across the portfolio. In these projects, it will deploy a “direct-build” approach, overseeing and leading construction projects focused on affordable mixed-income communities. This first tranche of sites will be in Dartmouth, Longueuil, Ottawa, Toronto, Winnipeg, and Edmonton.
2. To help protect existing affordable rental housing, the $1.5 billion Canada Rental Protection Fund will be launched under Build Canada Homes. This initiative will support the community housing sector in acquiring at-risk rental apartment buildings, ensuring they remain affordable over the long term. It also aligns with Build Canada Homes’ broader mandate to grow the supply of affordable and non-market housing – not only by building new homes, but also by preserving the ones on which Canadians already rely.
3. Build Canada Homes will deploy $1 billion to build transitional and supportive housing for people who are homeless or at risk of homelessness. It will collaborate with key provincial, territorial, municipal, and Indigenous partners to pair these federal investments with employment and health care supports.
4. Build Canada Homes will partner with the Nunavut Housing Corporation to build over 700 public, affordable, and supportive housing units. Approximately 30% of the units are expected to be built off-site, using innovative construction methods such as factory-built housing.

Prime Minister Carney launches Build Canada Homes to supercharge homebuilding across the country

Today, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, launched Build Canada Homes – a new federal agency that will build affordable housing at scale.

www.pm.gc.ca

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Item 3 really jumps out at me: Transitional homes should have some positive feedback into some of the crime and disorder issues, as stable housing is a reasonably well established support for people escaping addition and unemployment. Supportive housing generally specifically targets helping people progressing out of complex issues including addiction.

So this is a multi-layered announcement that targets a few issues. Obviously the timing the day before Parliament resumes is not a coincidence.

EDIT TO ADD: Further thoughts, looks like a deliberate part of this strategy is to catalyze larger scale modular home construction and to get building happening year round. I don't know enough about building homes to gauge the importance of this but I gather everything slows right down in winter in most of the country.

 

[The Bread Guy]

We need bail reform before we need new criminal code offenses.

And we need more jail space before denying loads more people bail makes optimal sense. But I’m sure … someone’s on it …

 

[Navy_Pete]

That's mostly because they did it in a very half ass manner that didn't actually address the problem.

Timeline for the federal government to address things is years, as most of the problems are things that have been building for decades, impacted by things outside of the country (and their control). Similarly, their fixes are top down and can have massive impacts, usually unforeseen because it's complicated issues.

On day 1 he 'axed the tax', is now talking about a full on pause of the EV mandate, and renewed development of oil and natural gas, while also pumping massive funds into the CAF, planning to trim the PS overall, and a host of other things that are normally on the blue side of the line. If he was doing the same thing in a different party there would be all kinds of 'We're back!!!' type things from the CPC.

Even Danielle Smith is optimistic.

 

[Maxman1]

Is it because parliament hasn't been sitting, that only so much work could proceed on each file up to a certain point?

Or did they legit just half ass it?



(Honest question - I haven't been following the details lately)

...

EDIT - Holy goodness gracious, I just re-read what I wrote and I am absolutely mortified - it really is an honest question - I AM NOT DEFENDING THE LPC!

Of the top of my head, the foreign homebuyers ban in the last election. It was full of loopholes that made it basically pointless.

 

[YZT580]

Carney government launches ‘Build Canada Homes’ with $13B initial investment

Carney government launches ‘Build Canada Homes’ with $13B initial investment

Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government is making an initial capital investment of $13 billion to launch Ottawa’s new affordable housing plan.

www.ctvnews.ca

4k units is the initial goal, first six sites already selected. Using modular home companies across the country to build year round

at 3,250,000 per unit that must be some house considering they aren't paying for the land. Even 325000 would be high without land value. But assuming that the lower figure is the cost per building that is some bureaucratic boondoggle. It is either that or my calculator is way off.

 

[brihard]

at 3,250,000 per unit that must be some house considering they aren't paying for the land. Even 325000 would be high without land value. But assuming that the lower figure is the cost per building that is some bureaucratic boondoggle. It is either that or my calculator is way off.

No, you just aren't engaging with the initial post n good faith. You're pretending that t's a 13b investment divided by the initial batch of 4000 homes and nothing else. Right in this threat without you having to click anything there are already a couple posts offering further details that make it very clear this will be a much longer term and larger sustained plan, and also that it has multiple facets beyond just building that first batch of homes on federal lands.

I understand your extreme skepticism regarding everything to do with this current government, and that's fine, but you can definitely do better than what you just attempted.

 

[MilEME09]

Details on the initial investments form the PMO news release:

- - - - - - - - -

Build Canada Homes has a mandate to move quickly. To that end, the Prime Minister also announced its first four investments and initiatives:

1. As Build Canada Homes begins to develop public land sites under Canada Lands Company’s portfolio, it will prioritize innovative, factory-built housing. To begin, Build Canada Homes will prioritize six sites to build 4,000 factory-built homes on federal land – with additional capacity of up to 45,000 units across the portfolio. In these projects, it will deploy a “direct-build” approach, overseeing and leading construction projects focused on affordable mixed-income communities. This first tranche of sites will be in Dartmouth, Longueuil, Ottawa, Toronto, Winnipeg, and Edmonton.
2. To help protect existing affordable rental housing, the $1.5 billion Canada Rental Protection Fund will be launched under Build Canada Homes. This initiative will support the community housing sector in acquiring at-risk rental apartment buildings, ensuring they remain affordable over the long term. It also aligns with Build Canada Homes’ broader mandate to grow the supply of affordable and non-market housing – not only by building new homes, but also by preserving the ones on which Canadians already rely.
3. Build Canada Homes will deploy $1 billion to build transitional and supportive housing for people who are homeless or at risk of homelessness. It will collaborate with key provincial, territorial, municipal, and Indigenous partners to pair these federal investments with employment and health care supports.
4. Build Canada Homes will partner with the Nunavut Housing Corporation to build over 700 public, affordable, and supportive housing units. Approximately 30% of the units are expected to be built off-site, using innovative construction methods such as factory-built housing.

Prime Minister Carney launches Build Canada Homes to supercharge homebuilding across the country

Today, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, launched Build Canada Homes – a new federal agency that will build affordable housing at scale.

www.pm.gc.ca

- - - - - - - - -

Item 3 really jumps out at me: Transitional homes should have some positive feedback into some of the crime and disorder issues, as stable housing is a reasonably well established support for people escaping addition and unemployment. Supportive housing generally specifically targets helping people progressing out of complex issues including addiction.

So this is a multi-layered announcement that targets a few issues. Obviously the timing the day before Parliament resumes is not a coincidence.

EDIT TO ADD: Further thoughts, looks like a deliberate part of this strategy is to catalyze larger scale modular home construction and to get building happening year round. I don't know enough about building homes to gauge the importance of this but I gather everything slows right down in winter in most of the country.

There are 45 modular home companies in canada. Each would need to make 89 homes to meet the initial 4000 target. Each home takes 3-7 months to build and install. I would assume by building through winter we would see bulk installations come spring. Some buildings are larger enough to have ten or more units building at the same time, others only 2 or 3. Im sure if the money was there many could scale up operations

 

[brihard]

There are 45 modular home companies in canada. Each would need to make 89 homes to meet the initial 4000 target. Each home takes 3-7 months to build and install. I would assume by building through winter we would see bulk installations come spring. Some buildings are larger enough to have ten or more units building at the same time, others only 2 or 3. Im sure if the money was there many could scale up operations

Thanks for the insight on that.