Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

Quebec is second.

Oops. I was going off per capita.

Plans to spend $750m.
($2b plus if he was going to choose to be ethical about compensation)
Loss of jobs
Loss of businesses
Loss of manufacturing
Loss of a popular sport

All to shut Quebec; when in truth it's tape over their mouth they'll shout through soon enough.

Being a bick dick banker doesn't mean you automatically do what's best.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Being a bick dick banker doesn't mean you automatically do what's best.

No, but you might be able to make alot more deposits in your life than an average dick banker......

 

[Altair]

Oops. I was going off per capita.

Plans to spend $750m.
($2b plus if he was going to choose to be ethical about compensation)
Loss of jobs
Loss of businesses
Loss of manufacturing
Loss of a popular sport

All to shut Quebec; when in truth it's tape over their mouth they'll shout through soon enough.

Being a bick dick banker doesn't mean you automatically do what's best.

Turns out....if you shut up and appease the second largest province in Canada in terms of population...you win elections.

Sure, you can win without Quebec, but the last person to do so was Harper. Mulroney won pretty easily when he won Quebec.

Maybe there is a lesson here.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Turns out....if you shut up and appease the second largest province in Canada in terms of population...you win elections.

Sure, you can win without Quebec, but the last person to do so was Harper. Mulroney won pretty easily when he won Quebec.

Maybe there is a lesson here.

Carney won because he was "the only one who could stand up to Trump". Turns out standing up to Trump means getting pushed in the corner and continuously hit in the face lol

I guarantee Quebec will be crying about another issue in 3.5 years that will need appeasement for the Liberals to hold on to power.

Edit: OOps. Looks like the gun amnesty is extended year #6. Maybe we'll see banning guns on Carney's next electoral platform for Quebec to cry about eh?

 

[ArmyRick]

ArmyRick, I do understand your argument because under our current Parliamentary system this is really how it works......But this thinking is like some of the examples that have occurred in the US, please read article below, where the voters were so pigheaded in their voting only for party X and not party Y has lead to dead people actually being elected.

Its the same approach to me. I will never vote for Party X because I hate their leader or their platform, even though my local candidate is actually dead or a convicted felon or a use tool. It defies logic to vote like this.

Full list of dead people who won their elections on Tuesday

The dead win elections more often than you think.

www.newsweek.com

"ArmyRick, I do understand your argument because under our current Parliamentary system this is really how it works."

That was my point. Thats reality. I really didn't want to be the asshole but you said it in your line there. I am not trying to be condescending at all.

I am very familiar with how elections Canada validates candidates (thanks to the parliamentary committee hearings on the Longest Ballot committee), it would be near impossible to have that happen in Canada (having a dead person run as MP) do the Canadian MP candidate validation process (there are several steps)

The Canadian system is quite different than the American system. You can vote a Democratic senator and also vote for a republican president.

We all know, the only way a prime minister is selected is FPTP winning party (majority or minority), end story. Our PM is selected by choosing a party, unless the party leader is one of the candidates in your riding and then you can directly vote for the PM.

Many people here got quite pissed and tested by my statements (or maybe you perceived arrogance?), however one, we need to discuss politics OPENLY and all of it (enough of the echo chambering), the more dialogue, the more views are heard. I really don't care who hates me or sticks pins into an armyrick doll. I have changed my opinions and views many times, make a better argument if you think you change my mind.

 

[Navy_Pete]

I guess I’m a lesbian then…

For a bit of context, we are friends with a number of same sex couples, who I think all drive Subarus, so thought it might be specific to that, but then googled it and it's a whole pop culture thing I was oblivious to (which is a long list I think).

I think there are 6 Subaru owners in the section of 18 people I'm in now, they are just good car, but thought the background of it was pretty funny, and the ads from back in the day weren't subtle about it either.

Edit; didn't look closely at the linked story, didn't realize it was adblocked. This is a better one, but there is also a good 20 minute podcast on NPR. Weird bit of recent history.

Subarus and lesbians: the story behind the love affair - The Car Pit



https://www.npr.org/2022/06/29/1108739853/when-subaru-came-out-classic

 

[Czech_pivo]

"ArmyRick, I do understand your argument because under our current Parliamentary system this is really how it works."

That was my point. Thats reality. I really didn't want to be the asshole but you said it in your line there. I am not trying to be condescending at all.

I am very familiar with how elections Canada validates candidates (thanks to the parliamentary committee hearings on the Longest Ballot committee), it would be near impossible to have that happen in Canada (having a dead person run as MP) do the Canadian MP candidate validation process (there are several steps)

The Canadian system is quite different than the American system. You can vote a Democratic senator and also vote for a republican president.

We all know, the only way a prime minister is selected is FPTP winning party (majority or minority), end story. Our PM is selected by choosing a party, unless the party leader is one of the candidates in your riding and then you can directly vote for the PM.

Many people here got quite pissed and tested by my statements (or maybe you perceived arrogance?), however one, we need to discuss politics OPENLY and all of it (enough of the echo chambering), the more dialogue, the more views are heard. I really don't care who hates me or sticks pins into an armyrick doll. I have changed my opinions and views many times, make a better argument if you think you change my mind.

Not looking to change your mind or anyone's mind, I don't have enough patience or gray matter to try.

What I personally just don't like is blind allegiance to any one party or individual. I don't believe that sort of dogma ever ends up in a good way - whether its religion, politics, business, sports (lol), whatever, it leads to faults being accepted, laws being broken and people being hurt.
I guess my times many years in the past standing at the remains of the crematorium at Auschwitz-Birkenau or the remains of Treblinka or the beauty that is the fortress of Theresienstadt but realizing that in reality it was a place of utter horror, at Dachau, at Sobibor and knowing that it was blind faith, blind belief in one political party/leader lead to all this makes me question that sort of dogma when I hear it today.

Respect.

 

[Lumber]

Carney won because he was "the only one who could stand up to Trump". Turns out standing up to Trump means getting pushed in the corner and continuously hit in the face lol

I guarantee Quebec will be crying about another issue in 3.5 years that will need appeasement for the Liberals to hold on to power.

Edit: OOps. Looks like the gun amnesty is extended year #6. Maybe we'll see banning guns on Carney's next electoral platform for Quebec to cry about eh?

Better to stand proudly in the corner taking a few licks that to get on your knees and... nvm I don't need another warning...

 

[Jarnhamar]

Better to stand proudly in the corner taking a few licks that to get on your knees and... nvm I don't need another warning...

What's even better than getting beaten up after bragging about winning is being in the actual winners corner cheering them on.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Trying to negotiate with the dealer was a waste of time; they sell them faster then they can stock them, which is I guess a good sign.

My wifes Ford Escape finally gave up the host last year and she wanted to try the Honda CRV. I went with, she's a good woman; but sales people see her coming miles away.

Honda offered a terribly high interest rate on an already expensive car and zero stock. Would be at least 6 months before the car would arrive.

So I talked her into going to see my guy at Fairley Stevens Ford. He put her in a baby bronco for a fraction of the cost of the Honda and she drove it home a coupl days later. And about 7 interest points lower than Honda.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Carney won because he was "the only one who could stand up to Trump" and people didn't like the obvious alternative as PM in spite of though polling was strong for the Conservatives for 2 years after PP got the leader's job right up until PMJT exited left.

FTFY

Meanwhile, fighting words from the guy running for his leadership job ....
"Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre took aim at the RCMP’s independence in a recent interview, calling the national police force’s "despicable" leadership and accusing it of covering up for the Liberal government and former prime minister Justin Trudeau. “If the RCMP had been doing its job and not covering up for him, then he would have been criminally charged,” the Opposition leader said in an interview posted to YouTube on Wednesday. Speaking to the YouTube channel Northern Perspective, Poilievre said Trudeau broke the law when he took a free vacation, a reference to the 2016 Aga Khan scandal ...."

Here's the interview with a Blue-friendly podcaster - 27:30 in is when the question gets asked and answered (including saying PMJT "Trudeau broke the Criminal Code when he took a free vacation from someone with whom he had government business. It's right there in the Criminal Code.")...

 

[Navy_Pete]

My wifes Ford Escape finally gave up the host last year and she wanted to try the Honda CRV. I went with, she's a good woman; but sales people see her coming miles away.

Honda offered a terribly high interest rate on an already expensive car and zero stock. Would be at least 6 months before the car would arrive.

So I talked her into going to see my guy at Fairley Stevens Ford. He put her in a baby bronco for a fraction of the cost of the Honda and she drove it home a coupl days later. And about 7 interest points lower than Honda.

I looked at the HRV, I wasn't really impressed by the car itself at that pricepoint or the financing. Hopefully she's liking the Bronco, a friend has one, seems like a fun car to drive.

Had good luck with Mazdas, so was looking at the CX5 and CX30, as well as the Passat, but then I swang by Subaru on a recommendation from one of the guys from work, took the crosstrek for a spin and everything just kind of felt 'right', and the loaded model was less then models of others I was looking at. Everything is where you kind of expect it, with actual buttons and dials for most things (except the climate control details, but got used to that).

One thing with traveling more and getting rental vehicles is I've gotten to try out a lot of N. American made cars, and haven't returned one yet thinking 'I'd buy that'. Some have digitized so much the actual interface is way more complicated then it needs to be, others have genius things like the stupid dial to change drive modes, (right on the same spot on the console that every one else has had a dial for navigating the entertainment console in the non-touch screen era) and just generally has things in non-intuitive spots, combined with pretty sloppy performance, so really unimpressive.

Everyone I know that had jobs in the auto sector has been laid off over the years (and some were screwed around a lot), so there really isn't any 'buy Canadian car' loyalty left, especially when you have other alternatives that are consistently safer, better made and cost the same or less.

 

[dapaterson]

Buying a Honda or Toyota assembled in Ontario is as much Buying Canadian as buying a US or European brand assembled in Ontario.

There are no Canadian carmakers any more.

 

[Jarnhamar]

FTFY

I appreciate that, thanks.

“If the RCMP had been doing its job and not covering up for him, then he would have been criminally charged,”

I always get the scandals mixed up. Was that the one where the RCMP asked for information and the LPC said lol fuck off, or was that the one where the RCMP just decided not to investigate the allegations and speak with Trudeau?