Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Jarnhamar]

I remember that, I got trained up too. Not particularly workable for busy border crossings though…

That thing was slick eh? I might even have some troops being troops pictures laying around.

I think there was an average of 275,000 personal vehicles crossing into Canada per day from the US in 2024.
That doesn't include commercial vehicles.

IMO security sacrifices some personal freedoms. If Canadians want to drastically reduce guns, drugs, and people being snuck into Canada it would mean longer wait times at the border to re-enter Canada.

 

[brihard]

That thing was slick eh? I might even have some troops being troops pictures laying around.

OH NO YOU DON’T.

I think there was an average of 275,000 personal vehicles crossing into Canada per day from the US in 2024.
That doesn't include commercial vehicles.

IMO security sacrifices some personal freedoms. If Canadians want to drastically reduce guns, drugs, and people being snuck into Canada it would mean longer wait times at the border to re-enter Canada.

The issue is more commercial traffic, and all the economic activity they’re involved in.

IMO we’re more likely to make a dent in cross-border weapons smuggling through joint intelligence, investigative, and enforcement efforts than by random x ray. Build teams equipped to do the undercover buys, cultivate and work human sources, and follow the guns upstream to identify the trafficking networks. And really boost punishment for anyone engaged in firearms trafficking.

 

[Jarnhamar]

The issue is more commercial traffic, and all the economic activity they’re involved in

For sure.

I think us westerners have gotten accustomed to ordering something on Amazon at 2 am and then getting pissy when it doesn't show up within 24 hours. We're in love with our stuff. Making border crossings less porous and slowing it down with x-raying every vehicle would feel like commercial activity is grinding to a halt maybe.

There's always the Qui-Gon bigger fish analogy at play. That recent bust in Cornwall had dozens of brand new, new gen glock pistols confiscated. That's a network and not just some dweeb sneaking in a revolver or two. I'd still like to see a lots of low level traffickers and their goods stopped.

When it comes to stopping human trafficking crossing the border I think it's even more important catching those one offs and two offs sneaking in because it's someone's life at stake.

Slow service is a hard sell if someone isn't directly impacted by what the slow service is resulting from (i.e trying to catch smuggling). We're also a society that goes bonkers when we're "bothered" by an amber alert being sent to our phone, or especially waking us up - but I'll save that for my manifesto.

 

[MilEME09]

IMO we’re more likely to make a dent in cross-border weapons smuggling through joint intelligence, investigative, and enforcement efforts than by random x ray. Build teams equipped to do the undercover buys, cultivate and work human sources, and follow the guns upstream to identify the trafficking networks. And really boost punishment for anyone engaged in firearms trafficking.

More inspection at the destinations? Dont clog up the border but have secondary screening and search at logistics facilities that recieve international goods

 

[ArmyRick]

An interesting take on the still not forgotten SNC-Lavalin scandal

Northern Perspective and Democracy Watch on this issue. CBC and CTV tried to make this into a "long ago, forget about it" issue.

 

[dapaterson]

I think us westerners have gotten accustomed to ordering something on Amazon at 2 am and then getting pissy when it doesn't show up within 24 hours. We're in love with our stuff. Making border crossings less porous and slowing it down with x-raying every vehicle would feel like commercial activity is grinding to a halt maybe.

Drunk me loves ordering at 2am.

Sober me sometimes thinks "if the delay was longer I would have cancelled".

 

[Kirkhill]

You know what I think influences debates? The demeanor of the debators.

 

[Haggis]

I remember that, I got trained up too. Not particularly workable for busy border crossings though…

IMO security sacrifices some personal freedoms. If Canadians want to drastically reduce guns, drugs, and people being snuck into Canada it would mean longer wait times at the border to re-enter Canada.

Once border wait times start to go up in the commercial lanes phone calls start to be made to port chiefs, then local MPs then ministers. Some people don't understand that good security takes time and effort do do right. And if it inconveniences them, then, it's not "good security" any longer.

I get yelled at by travelers at primary for a wait time of less than 10 minutes.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Once border wait times start to go up in the commercial lanes phone calls start to be made to port chiefs, then local MPs then ministers. Some people don't understand that good security takes time and effort do do right. And if it inconveniences them, then, it's not "good security" any longer.

I get yelled at by travelers at primary for a wait time of less than 10 minutes.

Ballsy that people yell at you for waiting. I’d be to worried about being pulled over to secondary for that.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Ballsy that people yell at you for waiting. I’d be to worried about being pulled over to secondary for that.

I'd assume it's an attempt at reverse psychology to hide the fact they're smuggling plastic straws or nunchucks and open their car up like a blooming onion.

 

[lenaitch]

"Border workers" FFS!!!

According to The Star article they seem to be stumbling over the word 'officer'.

At one point when speaking with reporters, the minister stopped short of calling them “officers.”
“The 1,000 officers — the 1,000 personnel. They’re not all officers, is my understanding,” he said.
A tweet by Prime Minister Mark Carney on Friday also referred to the new hires as 1,000 CBSA personnel.
But Audrey Champoux, a spokesperson for the prime minister, confirmed after the announcement that the budget envelope provides funding for 1,000 new officers.

 

[lenaitch]

IMO we’re more likely to make a dent in cross-border weapons smuggling through joint intelligence, investigative, and enforcement efforts than by random x ray. Build teams equipped to do the undercover buys, cultivate and work human sources, and follow the guns upstream to identify the trafficking networks. And really boost punishment for anyone engaged in firearms trafficking.

And on that note:

Truck full of U.S. handguns found in northern Ontario, two men charged

An eight-month investigation into cocaine trafficking culminated last month in the seizure of dozens of U.S.-made handguns loaded onto a tractor-trailer in northern Ontario.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Jarnhamar]

Two people from Brampton -- Balraj Singh, 31, and Kawalbir Singh, 21, have been charged with 72 counts of weapons trafficking.

I'm not sure if this is offensive to point out or not but the number of people in Canada with the last name Singh who are getting caught committing crime is crazy.

Non stop Singhs getting arrested.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... IMO security sacrifices some personal freedoms ...

Bold stance as an overall statement - a lot of people think that's a pretty slippery slope, saying "if you want to deal with something bad, just give up some of your freedoms" can lead to the classic Ben Franklin quotes/memes like, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” That said, though ....

.... If Canadians want to drastically reduce guns, drugs, and people being snuck into Canada it would mean longer wait times at the border to re-enter Canada.

That's fair, especially where travel is discretionary. Commercial concerns would gripe about longer crossing times, especially with supply chains being what they are these days, but then we'd see how the government of the day would balance the desires of business against the desires of the voters seeking more secure crossing points.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I'm not sure if this is offensive to point out or not but the number of people in Canada with the last name Singh who are getting caught committing crime is crazy.

Non stop Singhs getting arrested.

There's alot of extortion related gang activity these days. South Asians mainly, where Singh is as common as 'Smith' in other parts of the world...

Three Charged in Extortion-Related Shooting​

With the assistance of policing partners, three suspects were identified and arrested on October 3, 2025. The following individuals have been charged:

• Mandeep Gidda, a 23-year-old male, is charged with the following:
  • One count of reckless discharge of a firearm contrary to section 244.2 of the Criminal Code.
• Nirmaandeep Cheema, a 20-year-old male, is charged with the following:
  • One count of reckless discharge of a firearm contrary to section 244.2 of the Criminal Code.
• Arundeep Singh, a 26-year-old male, is charged with the following:
  • One count of reckless discharge of a firearm contrary to section 244.2 of the Criminal Code.

https://www.surreypolice.ca/news-events/news/three-charged-extortion-related-shooting

 

[Haggis]

According to The Star article they seem to be stumbling over the word 'officer'.

Well former Liberal Minister Elanor Kaplan did once refer to us as "glorified bank tellers" during discussions in the HoC about arming BSOs. So, I guess that mindset is still prevalent in the LPC.

 

[MilEME09]

There's alot of extortion related gang activity these days. South Asians mainly, where Singh is as common as 'Smith' in other parts of the world...

Three Charged in Extortion-Related Shooting​

With the assistance of policing partners, three suspects were identified and arrested on October 3, 2025. The following individuals have been charged:

• Mandeep Gidda, a 23-year-old male, is charged with the following:
  • One count of reckless discharge of a firearm contrary to section 244.2 of the Criminal Code.
• Nirmaandeep Cheema, a 20-year-old male, is charged with the following:
  • One count of reckless discharge of a firearm contrary to section 244.2 of the Criminal Code.
• Arundeep Singh, a 26-year-old male, is charged with the following:
  • One count of reckless discharge of a firearm contrary to section 244.2 of the Criminal Code.

https://www.surreypolice.ca/news-events/news/three-charged-extortion-related-shooting

Many of the south Asian gangs also have links to south American drug cartels

 

[suffolkowner]

Im sure this isnt the right thread but an interesting look at old vs new canada

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979608183040524649

 

[The Bread Guy]

Once border wait times start to go up in the commercial lanes phone calls start to be made to port chiefs, then local MPs then ministers. Some people don't understand that good security takes time and effort do do right. And if it inconveniences them, then, it's not "good security" any longer.

I get yelled at by travelers at primary for a wait time of less than 10 minutes.

Better or worse than people dealing with CATSA @ airports? I know it’s a bit apples-vs-oranges re: mandates, but I sense people have been educated not to FA in a way they don’t seem to do at land border crossings.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The bits are starting to fly off...

Kirk LaPointe: Mark Carney must re-corral the provinces before Washington does it for him​

Prime minister needs to re-create the "Team Canada" discipline of 2017-18 and narrow Canada's list of priorities

We remember the warmth in the room as the federation walked down the aisle last spring. It was love on the rebound: Ottawa and the premiers, bruised by their partners in trade, vowing to stand together for the fights ahead. And for a stretch, they did—showing up for one another, shedding bad habits, sketching big plans for the family.

Those were the days.

The impressively intense honeymoon has ended. The unlikely pair is bickering over how to support each other, how to find the middle ground to deal with the irritating neighbour, how to allocate their money, live up to responsibilities, divide their labour, and determine what they want for the future. At this rate, any time now they’ll be sleeping in separate quarters.

They can’t say they weren’t warned.

It has become clear this month that, in the frail and fraught marriage of the federation, Prime Minister Mark Carney and Team Canada are experiencing the logical phase that comes with an unlikely pairing—where reality sets in, flaws enlarge, impatience and irritability overtake the earlier grace, and they revert into going their own ways.

A couple's counsellor would say there is trouble that might be intractable.

Carney’s trade negotiations with the Trump administration offer little signs of reconciling the differences. He is being told there will be no full-fledged trade deal, but a bunch of customized carve-outs that extract, well, who knows what—because several months in now, the talks have no end in sight, nor even the slightest definition as to what they will entail, impose, or excavate when it comes to our living standards.

Province by province, we are witnessing a public rupture of what had been a promising federal-provincial tandem.

https://www.biv.com/news/commentary/kirk-lapointe-mark-carney-must-re-corral-the-provinces-before-washington-does-it-for-him-11357872